Not being sarcastic
Things a frame can get you
Frame
-Observer to out themselves and accuse an innocent person
-Prince to potentially out and call the observer a liar, or the prince execute the observer causing confusion.
Mindwarped Observer and Sheriff visited Framed Fool.
OMNIMILLER NOW CAN BE A THING! POG
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I like the idea of simplification, but this is too much. You shouldnāt be nerfing things for the sake of simplification, you should instead make them easier to instead.
About time, but I would still prefer it if it was poison instead of bleed.
Why? I loved the fact that mind warp could work on anyone. No feedback should be infallible. And mind warp isnāt that confusing tbh, it just causes you to receive wrong feedback.
Why? They are all a lot more niche now. Again, you shouldnāt be nerfing just for simplicity.
I donāt see what was confusing about prevention. And Sage shouldnāt be able to target unseen in the first place
Bewilder was niche, but I liked the idea of an ability that prevents day abilities from being used.
This is bad. First of all, why would you want to occupy an ally? This also detracts from enforcerās niche.
Why? Possessor was balanced.
What was wrong with the current distract? I dislike the fact that distract doesnāt last the entire day.
Why? There was nothing wrong with the current alch, and I recall that players complained about the old alch being just a better phys.
Why? Happy hour was fine as is, there was no need to change it.
Should be a night ability. Now the target will have 2 nights to be healed by a bad physician/scum-siding alch, and has no counterplay other than healing.
This is bad. Mastermind needs to be at least occupation immune, there are enough unconvertables. Plus this also makes mastermind too similar to the CL. The opposing factions should be less similar, not more.
Why?
TL;DR: I like the idea of simplification, but most of these changes are just nerfing/reworking abilities that donāt need nerfs. And none of the abilities changed were that confusing. Please revert most of these changes(with the exception of things that I didnāt quote)
Yup. Most of the nerfs in this patch werenāt needed. The unseen wasnāt that powerful. And I donāt get why they still added the mind warp nerf after most of the community complained.
I mean I donāt really see that big of an issue with it as long as we pay attention in future updates tbh
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But still, most of these werenāt confusing at all.
Mastermind used to bus their starting Assassin.
Itās better to bus the Mastermind as OG!Assass.
I do think the starting assassin should have a one time night immunity (even to things such as knight guard and bear) to compensate for the extreme swing in favor of BD that comes with an early death for them.
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EDIT: Iām fine with the prevention changes but the abilities that used to be prevention should still bypass occupation immunities
Also I very much dislike not being able to edit your logs on trial. Maybe thereās some infomation you missed or someone slipped and you want to change your logs, or maybe you just want to wipe your logs as scum
This was needed because BD would just lock down the MM until night 3.
This had the same problem that the current sheriff and paladin do, outing the opposing faction too early.
I agree that they should be less similar though.
What was so bad about Retribution?
Agreed, thatās the main reason why Iām against wolf being a day ability.
Hmm, Iād like to give apprentice a chance before people completely hate on it.
Question: Do people get separate feedback if they were occupied or prevented separately if they hit the princes jailed?
By hate I mean
āRee kill starting assassin means no more new MM pls buff/ change back.ā
Also damit I can no longer bus my assassin
Also damit my assassin probably gonna bus me and claim investigative
With this change
I feel like they should buff mm by giving him permanent appearing NS
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If assassin is claiming invest he can bus MM and his class will change to invest