No because non-bastard mechanics don’t drastically inconvenience you
That’s very clearly a bad-faith reading 
That is also decidedly not what I said, although I will admit that different people draw the line at slightly different places
There is, however, general consensus, which is what I’m using here
For example, a decent amount of people consider frames to be bastard
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orange’s definition could be technically correct but it’s almost completely useless
bastard games and regular games have a completely different feel
in terms of basic mechanics one could describe ToL as bastard, because conversion is at best VERY borderline on the bastard front
but it dosen’t behave like a bastard game
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Okay so
People who haven’t played FoL before would probably call it bastard because most cults on other sites are either very swingy and unbalanced or most of the players have no idea how to deal with them
ToL and FoL is nice because it nicely balanced cults so they actually kinda work.
I would really call it bastard per se because the way everyone is used to playing with a recruiting faction and the way the game is balanced around makes it playable.
I don’t entirely agree with this statement, and “feel” is, as I’m sure you’ll agree, significantly less definable than what mechanics actually do
But you also aren’t entirely wrong
On mafiascum.net, several Queue threads require a game with any of the mechanics in the list below to be labelled as “bastard”:
Cults
mid-game alignment changes
moderator lies that cannot be reasonably anticipated (for example, Godfather, Tailor, Miller, Ninja, and mechanics like that are generally fine, but telling someone they are a Reflexive Doctor when they’re actually a Paranoid Gun Owner is not)
secret win conditions
un-divulged non-randomness in player role/alignment generation
direct moderator influence during the game
quick google search
i don’t think “bastard” has a strict definition but you, coming from ToL/FoL, definitely view the term differently than people coming from other forms of FM
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Like, imagine you have a game full of people who have never played a cult game, and suddenly one of their alignments change to scum in the middle of the game.
Would you like that?
Well FoL/ToL tells you from begin on that there are exactly these mechanics in game ^^
So yeah deffo bastard by MS standards
Also bastard by a more general set of standards
Wisp would probably die before he touched this lmao
It depends on perspective here tbh we could argue about if it was bastard for hours and not get anywhere
nobody is telling you that FoL is bastard because of that
they’re saying that, in other forums, conversion is seen as bastard
and even though i’ve literally never played FM outside of this forum i see the argument
it’s not inherently a bad thing
here, it’s what we’re used to and what we’re here for
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I mean, it just is, by literally any reading of the definition of the word
But that isn’t inherently bad lol