just shout lolreactiontests whenever someone attempts to lie to garner reactions and you’ll fit right in
Which in my case against Luxy he tried to do the same thing in Ritual Mafia 2 as wolf.He could be possibly tried show this as TvT.He is good at it
The great wall of Icibalus
Now that we know that Celeste is an Innocent Child, this previously natural progression makes more sense for a wolf to post.
I think that this post seems to make a lot of presumptions about Celeste’s allingmnet which is a wolftell. What’s very interesting is that just 6 posts later, after Sam applies his vote as thus:
Luxy says this.
Notice that he already incorporates WIFOM into his assocation read so that if the lynches go Sarun -> Margaret he dosen’t get suspected. This is the first part of what I consider Luxy’s biggest wolftell- the fact that they seem to be hedging on every read other than Sarun.
I think that Luxy wouldn’t do this as town, he’d attempt to pursue every read with the same vigor as he does the Sarun read instead of hedging arounnd one most and being hyper-confident on one.
Notice this as well, that every read of his is done based on proximity, whether mental, physical, emotional or just gut feeling to Sarun. I don’t think that this shows “Town who is confident about his vote”, I think this shows “Wolf who is attempting to get off a mislynch and then get ‘I told you so’ credit on every one of his other reads for free.”
Hoooonestly this reactiontest is pretty NAI and isn’t even a serious reactiontest in most people’s books.
lolreactiontests btw
you’d have to reach to make it AI.
Notice that he says that the reaction test was serious when everyone knows “I have a red check on you, claim now” is a joke reaction test. I think that this shows Luxy attempting to get credit for NOT being memey all the time.
Another thing to note is that this post is a massive shade-thorw on literally everyone who is on Psycho’s wagon. It dosen’t make sense for town!Luxy to post the middle sentence of this post imo.
Notice that he introduces his boss, Insanity and Parfait reads in an extremely non-natural way, in comparison to another wagon. It just dosen’t feel natural to me at all.
He then goes into a few posts arguing with Parfait. Parfait is a good enough wolf that I can’t say conclusively if this is WvW or TvT or TvW or what (but as I’m suer you’ve gathered I’m wolfreading Luxy)
I think that Luxy introduces their wolfreads in a very unnatural way a lot and I don’t think that the lack of progression is because we can’t see it.
Then comes the Livicus case. There’s nothing much I can say except that I think Luxy might be trying to move into a Livicus pocket with the final point. EXCEPT for the above, which is another example of Luxy hedging on their reads.
Notice now that he agrees with Psycho due to the comparison with Sarun, in fact all of his points on Psycho are about how he agrees with Luxy on Sarun.
Also, this post is another example of Luxy hedging on all their reads but one.
Next up, Orange votes Luxy for putting in too much effort in their reads:
Orange has a point here. It feels like Luxy could easily be reaching for towncred by putting so much effort into reads that will likely be proven 100% innacurate soon enough.
Is it just me or would Luxy not immediately point out that Sam is actually immediately telling him NOT TO WOLFREAD? This post feels like a super-unatural response to a wolfy post. Sorta like pocketing by not attacking.
Notice that he now flips his reasoning to be Sarun whiteknighting Celeste after Celeste reveals as IC. I’m feeling like town!luxy would instead say “I’m going to reevaluate my read on Sarun after that IC reveal” but instead he just bowls on with his tunnel.
And now comes the DIRECT interaction between our two main characters>
Luxy now pulls out what I consider to be the most suspicious thing they ever do; they accuse Sarun of gaslighting them. I think that we can’t find much AI in the actual posts of the argument (mostly) because of the fact that Luxy is GOOD at faking TvT and would appear the same as both allingments.
the wolfy thing from this is this post:
This post is the only example of saying Sarun might be town and it isn’t good. Notice that the result of Sarun flipping wolf (which from his perspective is ALMOST CERTAIN) is that one of his strongest townrreads is wrong. Notice that the result of Sarun flipping town (the truth) is that one of his strongest townreads is affirmed as correct, according to him.
i think that this post shows not a desire to accept that they might be wrong but they are instead setting up for “I told you so” reads.
He now votes his own fricking townread after I start a push (which I now believe to be in error) on them.
He is CLEARLY fishing for “I told you they were town now can we lynch Sarun pls” credit here and it’s almost openwolfing how wolfy this post is.
Also, this is a totally unnatural point to reevaluate your read. At this point on the Sarun read progression town!luxy would just rush forward towards a mislynch without looking back, not reevaluate it. It just dosen’t make sense to me and comes at an awkward point imo.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT? I’M JUST GOING TO BOOKMARK THIS POST HERE:
AND CONTINUE THIS WALL LATER BECAUSE THIS IS ONLY HALFWAY THROUGH
With that titan of a wall said (and spoilered so you don’t have to read all of it if you don’t want to):
/vote Luxy
i’m only halfway through the ISO help
after i’m done with my Luxy case I’m just going to swear to myself that I will NEVER do a full pbpa in a mash again
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Hit 2.4k posts and
Jeez. I chuckle at some of them.
Also Luxy has to repeat his current reads. Just his top 2 scum reads.
Right now I have a scumlean on Livi, but not enough to make me vote him as I want discussion first.
Le Livicus ISO
There is an implicit carefulness in Livicus’ postings to me.
Leaving this here for now to see if this changes.
I’d suggest Livi post a readlist in absentia
[Sarun]
I have to note that at this stage of his ISO, I haven’t seen any conclusions from Livi towards Sarun’s alignment, I’ve seen him state that he believes Sarun will flip scum, but no evidence to back it up
Interesting that he stated furthers up that the possibiity was that Sarun was a bus on Psycho’s slot. Yet, he doesn’t re-evaluate his read on Psycho to reflect his townlean on Sarun. If Livi is still here, I’d like him to explain why
Hmmmm
This post really stands out in regards to Livi’s progression. Note: This is supposedly someone who has gone from a scumlean to a townlean on Sarun, shouldn’t he be more resistant to the wagon and not default to his previous read??
TLDR; on my wall so far
Luxy has constantly hedged around the side of saying anything conclusive in their reads EXCEPT on his Sarun read and his progression is actually unatural
Livi… he ain’t giving me a good impression right now to be fair. Something strikes me as differe
I’ll go into a good look. At 2.6k posts.
I have my eyes on 3 people. Not gonna say who they are but hey won’t it be fun to know.
Also I am at 2.8k posts rn so I’ll read Ici’s reply later or something
i was a lost wolf (the King)
honestly my best wolf game i’ve played even if I eventually lost. glares intently at Frost and Memesky
i got 4 mislynches and they only caught me by the 4th
unfortunately the rest of the Cult was caught by then and the Revenant was on me
so… yeah.
No, I think you’d do it as both wolf and lost wolf
mind you I have said Luxy is a lost wolf due to their wagon speed before but it dosen’t really actually matter
You don’t and you do an Alfa and wander aimlessly until you finally grasp what the fuck is going on