Angleshooting in Forum Games

Angleshooting is defined as doing things, or applying rules, in ways they weren’t intended in order to gain an advantage in a game. In mafia, a common example of this is using OGI (out of game information) to exert public pressure or influence on the game, to publicly give reads based on OGI, or in more extreme cases, to use information acquired through illegitimate means to covertly influence a game. Angleshooting also covers all intentional uses of any flaws/quirks in the forum software / modbot in order to subvert the spirit of the game.

This definition is purposefully non-specific, because angleshooting is more of a general idea than a specific case. Generally speaking, you know it when you see it, and it can run the gamut from relatively innocent/harmless to malicious and blatant cheating.

A good rule of thumb is if you’re attempting to push a game in a particular direction, and your reasons for doing so are not based on what’s directly happened in the game, or meta, you’re in the danger zone.

Mafia Universe is firmly against angleshooting. If you are unsure if a particular action/read is angleshooting or not, (privately) ask the game host and/or a moderator. If you encounter something in a game that you believe to be angleshooting, report the post and inform the game host, and the moderators and game host will take a look at it.

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Yea and that’s illegal. You can’t blame the hosts for it, when you knew the vote count. To my knowledge the other players had no visible proof of being aware it’s hammer or did not try to influence reads post hammer. Only legal thing you can do is to ping host and say that it’s hammer.

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Angleshooting is defined as doing things, or applying rules, in ways they weren’t intended in order to gain an advantage in a game. In mafia, a common example of this is using OGI (out of game information) to exert public pressure or influence on the game, to publicly give reads based on OGI, or in more extreme cases, to use information acquired through illegitimate means to covertly influence a game. Angleshooting also covers all intentional uses of any flaws/quirks in the forum software in order to subvert the spirit of the game.

This definition is purposefully non-specific, because angleshooting is more of a general idea than a specific case. Generally speaking, you know it when you see it, and it can run the gamut from relatively innocent/harmless to malicious and blatant cheating.

A good rule of thumb is if you’re attempting to push a game in a particular direction, and your reasons for doing so are not based on what’s directly happened in the game, or meta, you’re in the danger zone.

Forum of Lies is firmly against angleshooting. If you are unsure if a particular action/read is angleshooting or not, (privately) ask the game host and/or a moderator. If you encounter something in a game that you believe to be angleshooting, report the post and inform the game host, and the moderators and game host will take a look at it.

@Arete

Sounds like the extended version you’d look for.

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Wait then I’m not even allowed to say that it’s hammer, after hammering?

Lol so posting an inofficial VC after hammer and asking the others to stop twilight posting is punishable. That sounds… stupid.

No, being all like “Ohhh noo guys, I totally didn’t mean to hammer” is illegal after the hammer post.

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U can do this

/vote (?)
This is hammer.

In one post.

/vote (?)
Now can we discuss…

Hammer has reached.

(Put stuff into your logs, raging at how no one made it clear it was hammer.)

Remember, putting more substance into one post works better than posting several litters of minute reads.

No, Kyo, it won’t, because anybody who knows how to play the game won’t immediately come on and bleed soembody, correct? But a newbie used to ToL would.

So you can angleshoot And clear them

You can say Sorry for Hammer in same post as you Hammer nobody will suspect anything

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Exactly, so people wouldn’t time bleeds like that. They’d time it to happen at a time that indicates they just delayed things, like at 4:20 PM, or 6:09 AM, unless there’s a newbie in the game who they could lynch like that.

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We’ll get into a meta where people are arguing specifically over a strategy that only ever peeks newbies red, and believe me, it’ll be as toxic as when we tricked Universal into thinking that he wasn’t mafia and got him to reveal himself.

This post.

Any experienced player worth their salt (even me) will just say…
“Are you serious lol move on”
Weak sauce.

Can @Icibalus explain the Universal thing? What’s the story?

DatBird tricked a newbie in a bastard game into revealing themselves as a wolf because they didn’t know that the minority faction was GAMERS

That’s… sad.
Bastardy DX

Oof.

This is like convincing newbie scum to spill things in deadchat with a medium alive.

Btw
What’s your scum buddies? Just need it to scumsolve

Which, by the way, is something we once did.

I’m convinced allowing people to angleshoot bleed times will devolve simmilarly because it creates an unintiuitive meta that can get people killed.

Two souls have been scarred forever since