Announcement: Updated Policy on Replacements

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#341

Sending out invites to people who want to see it but not opening it to outside world is probably happy medium for people.

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#342

Thatā€™s what I mean by public

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#343

This isnā€™t just the argument
People also just want to join the conversation for the sake of being in an additional chat
Rather than potentially never talking to anyone

#344

And, furthermore, has been standard for ages

Only recently have we had mods start un-DMing DMs and idrc about that

#345

For example. We invited a single person by request of them, because they were close to us anyways, and we wouldnā€™t be emotionally hurt if this person can read our conversation.

#346

That seems even worse

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#347

Thereā€™s 2 types of specs for me

Popcorn-munchers and play along at homers

Popcorn munchers typically are spoiled to the game and just wanna watch it play out. They are fine to sit in a Spec chat.

Play along at homers are usually unspoiled. They wanna see if they can solve the game. They should seriously consider if they need to offically spectate to do that

#348

Itā€™s either invite everyone or fully publicise it in my book

#349

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Getting to pick and choose who gets to read your scumchat just feels like gross favoritism tbh

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#350

I noticed a fun tendency of spectator chats not being publicized when there are 4+ people/certain people in them.
Also sometimes hosts forget for spectator chats to be publicized? That happened with the last two chats I was in iirc.

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#351

Scum chats are part of the game and should be revealed. Dead chats possibly too.

#352

If you wanna chat about super private stuff I dont see why you cant do it outside of game related stuff tbh.

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#353

Scumchats are a private matter. The person we invited was not joining to be able to metaread us in future. They had no gain from that. It were just emotional matters.

#354

Scum chats must be made public. Say you were a town PR and got night killed night 1 because a mafia picked up on a soft but town didnt. That player could benefit from learning from that mistake

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#355

ive seen hosts forget to get someone to publicize stuff

ive seen why some specchats dont get publicized

ive been a part of the problem too

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#356

(and if they cannot commit to the game for whatever reason but still want to try to solve the game and talk with other people, they should be able to do that without judgement)

spec chat not only gives people a way to talk to people but a way to put your thoughts down.

Reads are much harder to organize when itā€™s all in your head and making a doc for it is like fine but also meh.

And if people want to join just to have a nice chat even if they might be avaliable to sub

Thatā€™s fine

itā€™s their choice and what they want to do and we should not be shaming other people into being backups when they would rather, for whatever reason, spectate.

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#357

Thatā€™s what I was implying :^)

#358

im well aware, im also not afraid of taking responsibility for stuff, you nerd

#359

At the end of the day it should just be:

  • Spec chats always public

  • Mafia chats encouraged to be public but may be private under host discretion should they agree with the playersā€™ reasons for requesting such

  • Players need to consider that their words will not necessarily be any more private then if they were posted directly into the thread, itā€™s just on a delay

  • ā€œPublicā€ means the chat remains invite-only but invites are given freely on request to anybody with a right to know (i.e. anybody who isnā€™t a complete unknown)

  • If you want to say things and not have it easily be traced to you, use an alt

This covers pretty much all the bases for everyone.

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#360

I literally said earlier Thereā€™s no shame in speccing. I just want players to think harder about doing it.

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