[Anonymous Competitive] - NewD3 - Mafia Wins!

[KyoDaz]

Votecount

Voted	Voter	Count
Applause	Paparazzi	1/4
Replay	Venus	1/4
Shallow	Telephone	1/4
Venus	Replay	1/4
Enigma	Applause	1/4

[Venus]

@Replay

a. What are you current reads with explanations, please.
b. In your first reads list, why did you place Telephone and Babylon as you did?
c. What specifically made you change your read on Paprazzi and LoveGame

[Telephone]

@Replay

My goal as Town is to not cause Town to lose.
Allowing myself to be scumread contributes to leading Town into a spiral of losing. Especially if I am miylynched.

Well you’re failing miserably, so like

Yeah

[Venus]

I think I’m just arguing with stubborn town tbh.

Could it really just be Paparazzi/Shallow you think?

[Telephone]

It feels so easy but like sometimes it just is

[Telephone]

Part of me just says fuck it and rand between replay and like shallow or paparazzi

[Replay]

@Venus

a. What are you current reads with explanations, please.

Apologies, I was meant to include them in the post you replied to with this (as stated in my second point) but forgot to as I had to rush to do things irl.

Town

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Replay - It’s Me.
Paparazzi - My final interaction with them at the end of D1 made me believe they were Town since based on my interactions with them, they didn’t seem to be pushing a wolf agenda or planting seeds for a wolf motive into the thread. I could be a pocketed Town right now, but they managed to convince me in below 3 posts.
Enigma - He was above Paparazzi but below LoveGame by the end of the day, and despite me not being influenced by Paparazzi during today to Townread him more, this is based on the fact that…he hasn’t done anything as people pointed out. D1 he was giving us Town motives, Town initiative and attempting to be a Townleader.
Applause - This is more or less the fact that I can’t tell them doing anything, not to mention no one is placing attention on them. They seem to be cruising this game but not in a style of players indicative of this forum but more trying to stay out of the spotlight. This would be lower, but I feel there are more players that are scummy. Not to mention when commenting on my readslist they mentioned why I put myself and Enigma so high, which tells me I don’t think they’re paying much attention.
Venus - Their push on me tells me that they were a wolf trying to cause a mislynch that had to back down after a while. Their points and their lack of wanting to read context of posts that they said could damn me shows that they don’t want to read the whole situation/just decided to ignore it. Not my top scumread, but my current vote.
Telephone - Their buddy-buddy attitude with Venus that seems to be one-sided tells me that Telephone is a wolf trying to pocket Venus. In actuality I would put all bets on that if this flips scum, Venus is Town. They seem like they’re trying to convince Venus and also doesn’t want to push on points themselves. They claimed that everyone has made claims on why I’m scum while only Venus has done that, which didn’t strike me the right way especially considering they’re voting me.
Shallow - Where are they? They haven’t done much and yesterday they were being pushed on by players that are now dead. They managed to save their own skin while also causing a mislynch on someone else. This is mostly my fault for forgetting to vote yesterday but you get where I’m coming from.

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Scum

@Venus

b. In your first reads list, why did you place Telephone and Babylon as you did?

Telephone I saw as slightly trustworthy at the time. Babylon was just placed towards the middle because they were Null, same goes for Applause and Shallow who were mostly just placed there because I hadn’t seen much from them nor trusted them much at the time.

@Venus

c. What specifically made you change your read on Paprazzi and LoveGame

My final interaction of D1 included them. You should go read that and see my reasoning. I posted about how I felt convinced that they aren’t scum and how wolves don’t seem to be pushing much onto the thread specifically while those two were in the thread with me.

[DatBird]

@Enigma has replaced @Enigma do not discuss replacements

[KyoDaz]

Enigma has replaced in for, well… Enigma. Do not discuss replacements.

[Enigma]

What’s up guys

Reading up I guess, only skimmed through day 1

[Enigma]

@LoveGame

You can play game on telephone

I love Telephone

I do not love Babylon

I can not play game on Babylon, as Babylon was the capital city of Babylonia, a kingdom in ancient Mesopotamia, between the 18th and 6th centuries BC.

/vote Babylon

I was about to say how I liked this slot but then I realized he’s dead, welp

@Replay

What are you on about?
My post specifically stated that I wanted to solve since I would’ve had a lot of time to but because of the lack of posts I haven’t been able to. Backtrack a bit and then rethink your actions and try take a better approach next time.

I do not really like this slot but then I’m only so few posts in, maybe too stressed?

@Paparazzi

/Vote Enigma

Gotta sheep my soul read

Even if I think enigma is town

I’m quoting this but it’s more for the sake of quoting than actually pure thinking? It sparks something in me but I dunno if it’s town or scum, my feelings are strong I imagine

@Venus

I dislike Paparazzi. Their opener felt jokey, similar to they were attempting to get into the swing of things, however they didn’t generally do much by any stretch of the imagination. Also, in what manner can you soul read somebody you don’t really know the identity of?

I like Shallow, they appeared to have a similar idea to me.

I additionally like Enigma, for the most part since they’re entertaining.

@Venus

Also, “policy” isn’t an explanation for a vote.

Provide one that’s actually an explanation because I see no reason for Enigma to get policy lynched here.

I quite like this but the weird mix of a serious read of Paparazzi and their read of me feel very in conflict you know? I struggle to see the thought process

@Venus

Eh. That is reasonable.

You’re most likely town in any case.

@Venus

/vote Paparazzi

So far I struggle to see Venus’ line of thought

@Replay

Assuming scum distancing but then proceeding to vote a player not related to the scum distancing.

Please, make sense with your posts.

Here’s where I’m at with the slot

I do think the “push” if you could even call it a push, on Babylon is slightly opportunistic because Babylon not being sure of their read is more of a townie thing

So while the push makes sense, I still think it’s quite weird

@Paparazzi

I explained my soul-read perfectly adequately

Seems like a scum motivated push

@Paparazzi

I’m trying to pocket a player with horrible reasoning based on how we are chronological lady gaga songs?

You think this is serious?

I think the anger is at least a little bit genuine seeing how Venus interacts with the slot

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Something I want to note, I usually jump to conclusions too quickly, so right there while I do think Replay and Venus make sense as scum entities, I don’t have much of a read so far on the likelihood of them being W/W, I don’t want my post to just be me clinging onto an idea very early on and then being biased in my analysis

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@Venus

Scum pushing a policy lynch dependent on talking in third person is weird and dumb and not something wolves do.

I agree that my slot’s previous owner was quite a bit of a trickster

@Venus

Your posts just don’t make sense to be honest. Your first couple are mostly fluff. You call votes on a 0 poster and yourself “good votes,” and then you get overly defensive when I call you out.

What are you doing this game?

Here, yet again I still think the push and the idea in general come off as semi opportunistic but this part

@Venus

What are you doing this game?

Sound way townier

I’m really conflicted regarding your slot, I dunno if I should be SRing you because to me you come off as scum being opportunistic or if you are Town with reachy~esque conclusions? Most of what you SR people for are bad plays, not scum plays

It’s still very early so

@Telephone

/Vote Venus

@Telephone

Stop arguing with each other and ask me about my vote or smn

The stand of Telephone regarding the Venus vote is… how do I put it

It’s weird but I do believe it comes from town, They want attention, I don’t think their slot in context once again, want attention especially since I do not believe they have much of an impact in this game?

For the people wondering, my stance as of right now is, I’m open to evolving my reads but I feel fairly confidant in the fact one of Venus or Replay could flip scum, Shallow and Applause are my nullreads and Paparazzi and Telephone look townie enough for me

(splitting post so people don’t suffer from a seizure due to the sheer lenght of my post :p)

[Enigma]

Part 2 - Trying to get faster to the more important part

Starting from #85 or something like that

@Applause

This smells like “I need to appear to be proactive. Let me vote the person who was sleeping.”
The game started literally 10 hours ago.
The fact that someone liked a push so weak in such a small amount of time and the same liker jumped in the thread to defend that pusher smells badly.
Still, Enigma is null. Reading how they interact with Paparazzi is something to remember.
Paparazzi’s push is nonsense.

This feels more like town reasoning than Venus’ posts, I quite like it

@Enigma

Enigma is laughing a lot.

Previous Enigma sure was a cool guy

@Telephone

I don’t like this reaction

I’m mindmelding with Telephone on this one post

@Enigma

Enigma strongly agrees with this.

Enigma even agreed

That’s 2 people who agree! Enigma and Enigma!

@Applause

Why are you still defending and justifying their vote? Let them do it by themselves.
OMGUS? Cute.

I feel like Applause is town

Calling things cute in Mafia sure is weird, almost sounds like LAMIST, not that I care about that part

@Applause

Paparazzi made a weak push and left
Enigma jumped into the thread and started to defend them

I can see a world where a villager defends someone like this. I can’t see a world where a wolf defends a townie like this, but I can see a world where a wolf defends a wolf like this.
So whilst Paparazzi can be any alignment, if they are town then Enigma being wolf is unlikely.

Well, that’s true.

@Enigma

I think the anger is at least a little bit genuine seeing how Venus interacts with the slot

I still feel as if it was town but maybe I’m giving him too much credit for being pushed by my, at the time top SR/SL

That’s something that could be happening

@LoveGame

Shallow seems to be copying my gimmick this game, which is to make a comment on your name, and/or a joke about it. Could be seen as blending in.

I might say the same about Enigma, but they have kept up they’re posting way, and so I love them.

Our fellow dead TrackerTM mightve been onto something but I still haven’t seen if he had ever claimed or softed PR so maybe it’s just PR hunt and not a meaningful kill

@LoveGame

I currently am hoping for more content, from those with the names of

Replay
Babylon
Shallow

I have given my thoughts on Venus, Enigma, and Applause, as well as myself.

That leaves Paparazzi and Telephone. Those are two slots who have been actively posting, but I do not find myself immediately townreading. I may look into those two soon. I must explore my feelings before deciding if I love them.

Interesting thing is that I have a reverse mindmeld with the dead town which was nkd

@LoveGame

LoveGame
Enigma
Venus

Applause

Babylon
Telephone
Paparazzi
Replay

Shallow

Just copying read list because maybe people didn’t look into LoveGame much

@Telephone

Their is no night zero

Well that’s a thing on several level

Don’t know what to think though?

@Enigma

Referring to yourself like this is obnoxious please don’t.

Man.

@Paparazzi

If I read the set up correctly, it us 7 vs 2? Not the hellscape of 6 vs 3 I was thinking it was for some reason?

Is this too out there?

The myth of the TWTBAW has finally come true

Just kidding, I think town anyway based on my previous reads?

@LoveGame

Just in the first half of the ISO, they make their thought process clear through their posts. Is this fakeable? Maybe, depends on who is behind the planet.

I think the thing that I want from venus most is their most anti-consensus town and scum read, and why. It’s possible they are just picking on LHF people who are doing scummy things and pointing out why those things are scummy, so I want to see their thoughts behind town reads and I want to see a scum read that shows thinking that cannot be reasonably thought of as fake pushing on LHF people.

I overall disagree but things indicate I’m most likely wrong?

If past me agreed, I shall follow (or not)

@Enigma

Enigma thinks Replay has not done enough after original suspicion and is more likely scum than Babylon who Enigma is currently voting.

/Vote Replay

Replay sure is out there

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quick break

[Venus]

That could work. Hm.

[Venus]

Hiya Enigma, great to see your slot active again.

[Enigma]

New Enigma is cooler than past Enigma

[Venus]

[Enigma]

Tell me more about gamestate I’ve been reading post 1-200 and right now I don’t really see how the Babylon jettison happened

[Enigma]

Also did our Tracker claim/soft?

[Enigma]

@KyoDaz

Voted	Voter	Count
Venus	Telephone	1/5
Replay	Enigma	1/5
Shallow	LoveGame, Babylon	2/5
Babylon	Venus, Shallow, Applause, Paparazzi	4/5
Not Voting	Replay	1/9

I kinda agree with past Enigma, Replay is one of the slots I’m suspicious about

[Venus]

Thread got really inactive later on as we were just waiting for people to post.

It just came between Babylon and Shallow as neither had done much.