Let’s face it, if Reaper gets debauched night one he should just leave the game. There is no counterplay, he already lost and Possessor and Sorcerer don’t have this problem. They can’t be debauched and in fact can use abilities night one that let them kill without even visiting their target. Reaper can’t empower reap night one anymore and I think this should be reverted …
Reverted? He never could do that. I would be ok with it thought (although I wouldn’t use it that soon as its more likely to just get me killed more than anythihg).
empowers and kills debbing Drunk
dies immediately
Kinda doesn’t matter whether Gather Darkness can be used N1.
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I mean I guess it would be nice. Really though I guess why not have it as an option? It’s not like you have to use it and people already have enough sense not to spam it.
He never could do that.
Weird, I thought I remembered doing it a few weeks ago but I guess not … But still I want counterplay to a random n1 deb beyond hoping the drunk dies n1.
He won’t know to empower anyway, so empowering isn’t really a solution unless you think Reapers empowering N1 every single time could become the meta.
Simpler solution: Change Reap so it doesn’t produce a message to the victim if they’re immune. That means a Reaper can deb you (costing you a night), but you won’t be outed by it because they won’t see that you tried to attack them.
This would somewhat nerf the Drunk (removing their ability to find an NK they previously could), but I think it’ll be fine. Drunk already has lots of powers and technically isn’t even an Investigative to begin with. I mean… Drunk is nearly a flat upgrade to the Butler, they don’t need the ability to find Reapers.
Reaper is the strongest NK and he doesn’t need a buff. Somtimes you get unlucky thats life.
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Actually Sorcerer is the strongest in terms of win rate. And Possessor has more potential and likely a higher win rate.
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Where did u get those number from?
So why does the Sorcerer getting buffed?
Agreed, gather darkness should also just guarantee that reap kills the target.
No. The problem isn’t Knights or Mercenaries. Those should stop reap like normal regardless.
The problem is drunk or butler.
But gather darkness does kill drunk if he debs you, I don’t understand what your’e saying. Last game I had Reaper i got debd n1, chilled the drunk and got him executed, but of course he outted me in his logs so my efforts were futile and I knew it