Astromancer [BD Investigative] and Zodiac [Unseen Social]

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#21

Astromancer
Star Map: I think that’s fine, Noble doesn’t get wrong information either?
Stargazing is similar to gossip, it won’t give you as accurate information but it will trigger even for evils. Sounds alright.
Galaxy cross… sounds complicated. You might find a convert with that if you know MM, but I wouldn’t really know how to use it
The day abilities sound alright
I think that’s a special kind of noble ;^)

Zodiac
Outer Void - what happens with occimmune classes?
Basically an unseen scorned, allows to bus BDs ^^

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#22

Astromancer is an amalgamation of Noble, Observer, Princess and Maid to some extend.

That’s just to save ourselves some trouble with deciding what his abilities would show on frames :^)

It’s like a second hand flirt. You basically pick one person who’s class type you know and get the second target to visit someone. You would probably use it on [Killer/ Invest] and on a [Invest] for high value imo.

I think they should still get the “You were occupied” feedback basically outing the Zodiac.
Should force people to pick better targets and not just blindly “occ” people.

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#23

Comet’s Trail (2 use): You will be notified if you visit the same player as your Target tonight.

So basically an investigative version of Hunter’s Mark? I like it.

Inner Cosmos (1 use): Choose 2 players. They will receive correct feedback tonight.

But Empower already does this …

Outer Void (1 use): Choose 2 players. Your targets will not receive any results tonight and will believe they were occupied.

Seems kind of strange. It’s exactly the same as occupying them except for some rare case differences like getting killed by reaper circle or showing up on observer follow.

#24

Better than that actually. If combined with Stargazing you can confirm someone’s class type with that.

Can still be gossiped, followed, and the only class types it actually screws over is Investigative.
Goal was to make the opposite of “Inner Cosmos”, try to make players suspicious, allow your Unseen to steal others abilities and so on.

#25

Would that be fair to Observers though, since their logs are already so hard to read?

#26

An example of Astromancer logs would be:

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Don’t think they are that hard to read.

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#27

I actually meant, poor Observers who say X visited Y when X thinks they were occupied (but really targted by Zodiac) and says the Obs is lying … the confusion.

#28

Ooooh, you meant it that way.
Well once Zodiac becomes more common people might remember about it.
But still, rare convert + rare spawn, might cause issues.

#29

That’s not an issue. It’s a usecase for the ability

#30

Issues in the sense that false bug reports or multiple questions regarding it.
Just look at how many questions are asked about Chronomancer (a lot)

#31

Isn’t this basically a Noble with weird secondary ability’s?

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#32

It’s a Noble, a Princess, an Observer, a Maid.
It’s a lot of things.

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#33

Not a maid. She doesn’t compare factions at all.

#34

I consider this to be Maid-like.

#35

That’s more of a princess thing.

Either way it’s just weird and would make me wish I was an observer.

Very redundant class. Yes I know the chronomancer exists, I don’t like the chronomancer.