Autumn Invitational - Day 4 (5/13) - Town Wins!

[sulit]

i have been pretty low effort this game because d1 i had soccer tournament for basically whole day

and was on zoom d2

[sulit]

why is hippo not

scum

[katze]

i cant make this quote not break so weh

[quote=“Arete, post:2801, topic:84772”]
Centuries

@Centuries

@Mistyx

@Centuries what’s your read on katze so far
[/quote]

line between kat being scum actually openwolfing and them being legit trolling town is rather thin

i think that

fuck kat and also

closer to wolf than to town but like, not that much

First interaction I could find between the two of them, the whole ‘ping a wolfmate in the thread and ask a very generic question’ is definitely something I’ve done before but it’s not damning on its own.

@Centuries

deep wolf conroy was deep

deep wolf kat wont be deep

this is technically an interaction in the sense that it was a reply to Mist

quoting it for the sake of completeness but this really isn’t moving the needle for me one way or another

@Centuries

SHUT THE FRICK UP MIST

thanks

I guess if I squint Centuries yelling at Mist makes them slightly less likely to be W/W??

@Centuries

I agree with Mist concerning how Orange feels similar to his play in Umineko, not that I wanted to remember that game, I’ve never seen scum Orange iirc so I don’t know how different he is as scum, > rand v aswell

another ‘this is technically an interaction’ post

@Centuries

W leaning

Mist (pr claim? but cc’d? idk you guys are pushing her not me)

Quoting this even though it’s technically after Mist started openwolfing because I do actually think it’s AI, I think Conroy is ?probably? telling the truth here about not realizing that Mist was an outed wolf (not sure?) and I think Mist’s partners would have realized that she was an outed wolf, like, unless this is basically the worst wolf team ever it’s the sort of thing that would have come up in scum chat?? so this interaction makes me feel better about Conroy

Conclusions

There’s nothing that makes them 100 percent not W/W and a couple of their earlier interactions are a little but there are a few interactions that make me think they’re definitely less likely to be W/W, thinking I don’t really want to go there at this point

@Chloe

Accused	Voters	Number
Centuries	Solic, orangeandblack5, Icibalus, Arete, Hippoyeetus, Centuries	6/6

@Arete

wait Conroy conceded? I just scrolled up a couple posts

@Arete

did Conroy concede or did he not concede I’m confused

@Arete

/vote Conroy

Conroy

@Arete

I mean you literally posted a white flag so yes

@Arete

@Centuries

im mafia

checkmate

@Arete

Summary

not going to lie I’m kind of sad about this? like sweeps are cool and all but I was expecting a fun and exciting game not a game that ends D2 with the last wolf conceding

and like I don’t want to be like ‘how dare you not fight a 9v1 Conroy’ but I wish he’d given us the chance to properly hunt for him rather than just giving up

this is probably dumb

hmmst

[Arete]

I mean

I thought he looked okay from Mist interactions

then I wrote a wallpost and when I finished the wallpost everyone was saying that he’d conceded

as it turns out people giving up and admitting they’re scum is the sort of thing that makes me think they’re scum

(to be fair to Conroy now that I’ve actually read the messages in the middle they were way less concede-y than people made it sound)

[Arete]

I thought his interactions with Mist pointed to him not having TMI that Mist was scum

[katze]

compared to hydra game 3 where boknows “openwolfed” as V, you basically shut down anything implying conroy could ever be a villager

i could provide screenshots of our hydra chat to prove this claim but you were still making reads on BK112 after they openwolfed, despite us going into D2 with them as our top scumread

in this game you went into D2 with a “potentially not W/W with the flipped wolf, wouldnt kill today” read on conroy and… you just

destroyed him

[katze]

@Arete

did Conroy concede or did he not concede I’m confused

despite not even knowing for sure if they openwolfed you never actually reevaluated once

[Solic]

I’m just really annoyed they self-hammered tbh. I mean… I might have had a part in it, but interrogating is just literally how I find alignment sometimes… They actually gave me some towny pings near the end, but I just wanted him to pick a direction to go into.

[Geyde]

Interactions that don’t make sense for w/w (not stupid haha he pushed a wolf lock town, but not being on same wavelength as w which is a very big not w/w tell)
Mist’s play makes no sense if Hippo is w and is borderline gamethrowing

[katze]

@Geyde

Mist’s play makes no sense if Hippo is w and is borderline gamethrowing

okay can you explain how you’re going this far

[Geyde]

Ici explained it and I don’t think he’s wrong

[katze]

@Arete

(to be fair to Conroy now that I’ve actually read the messages in the middle they were way less concede-y than people made it sound)

why didn’t you read them like, at the time???

what

[Geyde]

Killing Conroy was a power move

[katze]

yes but aretes treatment of conroy on D2 is actually fucking terrible and the fact that we had a very similar situation in our hydra game where they actually evaluated it closer is like

?

[Geyde]

They handled d2 like ass from every measure

[Solic]

… Arete being scum could clarify why Mist claimed PR sorta outta the blue. Set up a counterclaim to ride the towncred for a while.

but this requires me to read their slot and I’m about out of time to play tonight

[Geyde]

But like
I still case it as likely v because Vulgard gave it a pass and I hate life

[Arete]

I mean what I said in the hydra game was ‘kill him, if he flips town we blame him afterwards’ and I don’t think I even admitted to the second part in the hydra game thread

Bo112 also immediately took back the openwolfing, made fun of us for believing it, and started making actual reads, I thought at the time that they were just in antispew but they were technically making reads

whereas Conroy’s posting post wallpost felt like FoL 28 where I was like ‘my cat is a loyal servant of Adiart, I’m not lolcatting’ like he literally said he wasn’t conceding and then posted a white flag

[katze]

i dont think vulgard ever gave them an official pass other than “they wrote some villagery posts” but i ll double check

if he did i might just drop this for now but

d2 arete doesn’t care about the game

[Geyde]

God if I wasn’t a sheep I would kill you for this thread presence