I do think its probably arete
I’m down to lynch them first for reasons I’ve already stated
my cat wants my window open
but the sun is bright and glares on screen
cat make read hard
but she looks happeh
@deadchat i have cat pictures
nyoomed through ici’'s iso
going to look throug h jojo now
I actually don’t think it’s Arete that much anymore. Their Katze case was all right, although probably time better spend on actual players in PoE. I don’t believe they would be able to provide much of a good faith read in this gamestate, which would suck for scum.
I would probably go Sulit > Ici > Orange > Arete now
I have not really seen great arguments for Ici must be town here tbh.
Orange kind of flipped out before upon suspicion of me, which I don’t think was that warranted, so it’s making me pause. I feel like some players are clearing them for volume, but effort wise they aren’t miles apart from Arete and Orange can and has swamped thread before as scum. Orange could have actual TMI in being so correct on Birdo and later swapping to Mist. (If this is wrong, you can take it as a compliment )
I know I’m clearing Arete more so for effort than Orange and that’s because I feel that Arete dives way deeper and Orange does it to control thread.
I skimmed up to 3/4th of Orange ISO at this point in the post and now I don’t really know anymore. I probably dislike their posting style, because you can’t easily see argumentation, which might bias me.
I’ll just bet on the fact that I’m alive tomorrow and try more/harder.
Like everyone in PoE has some legit reasons for being town meeh.
That being said I have a staunch refusal to give Arete credit for doing work at a time when that’s the only thing they can do to stay alive
Also if Arete doesn’t show up at least an hour before EoD we should always lynch them
Just facts
also what does this even mean
jojo is game where ici was wolf
Bazinga
Like 200 reasons I am not scum lol
It’s in character
in character, but still like not good, so yeah dont do that
Mistyx:so you plan on doing neither to bait meta townreads got it
what
anyways
/vote DatBird
DatBird: orangeandblack5:“orange and Solic were planning to drag the thread down in a massive fight”
you know thats just like terrible, prob not scumwise, but like as people wise. Dont do that
still not as bad as pronoun reads
oh your approaching me?
/vote Orange
Geyde: Mistyx:so you plan on doing neither to bait meta townreads got it
what
“orange said he would do [x] as wolf, he did not do it here, therefore town”
either I say it or Solic/Geyde do
It’s never AI either way
ok wolf
I’m happy with cent/dat wagons aorn
DatBird - Can be good as either alignment, not a slouch of a slot
yall saw that one time i gave effort and now im good as either allignment, jfc yall have high expectations.
It’s an invitational
if you could be bothered to play there you can be bothered to play here
arceus above this is going to go terribly
anyways
Ici
GeydeKat
AreteMist
SolicCent
DatBirdama
orangeandblack5:It’s an invitational
if you could be bothered to play there you can be bothered to play here
thats what u think. hahaha im scared as fuck. Plus as im most likely not gonna be able to play at all come the 25th, so yeah apologies in future when i prob drop dead from the amazon overlords
can i ask why im so low? i prob know the answer as you play like eevee
Hi
hi
bye
/vote marshal
good morning, now spill the beans, whos dying today marshal
Dat
What’re you doing
wolfing
nothin much, just bored
see?
so being bored is allignment indacative, :wowee: i thought we were in an invatational
what
its such a low level baseless read, i expected more
like what
like
really what
im trying to do stuff, doesnt mean i cant be bored
ur doing the shit eevee does every game with me. Scumreading me for reactions its boring, and now that i said its boring suddenly thats a real bad thing.
your words don’t line up with your thoughts
ok
when I ask you what you’re doing
I would think it reasonably would refer to thread given that I’m a hardcore gamerI guess you could interpret it as ‘how are you doing oog’
But how you build off of it despite your previous content sort of digging into the game at points is ???
can you explain where you’re coming from
like skimming the posts Geyde quoted it looks like Dat just doesn’t have thoughts at all, which while admittedly not a great look is different from his words and his thoughts not lining up
in particular his first/second post
think it was the first one sec
DatBird:Yall really be yapping already, ngl thought sod was gonna be bland but its so much better than I expected
this
the snap into “everything is boring” is so mind-bending that I can only read it as fake
like I did I feel nothing much from the thread atm, I was excited for this game, and seeing how many people were posting seconds into the gate was exciting and then I started reading and just got less impressed, and then I saw oranges tactic to read me and felt just like “really… thats how we starting off the gate”
GTH, do you think orange’s read on you comes from a town motivation or a wolf motivaton?
orange probably v
not reading the agenda i usually get from him as wolf here
lel
I’m literally out here shading a dude
like look at whats it called the game where eevee straight didnt read his rolecard, once he gave a damn toi play the game he did the same shit and tried scumreading me and building worlds where im scum using his pr even though realistically those worlds didnt make sense as he was a BP. It just felt familiar and like annoying when orange did the exact same thing two seconds off the bat
But like
“boring” in particular is such an odd word choice even given dat’s own explanation
Arete:GTH, do you think orange’s read on you comes from a town motivation or a wolf motivaton?
I think its rather NAI, as like its just a form of reading. And knowing how i am with my reactions it sometimes works regardless of my allignment as Im very emotional, like look how quickly cloned jumped onto insta beleiving eevee even after I proved it wasnt mech. Cause i kinda didnt respond well. Im trying to improve on that department and keep the more emotional reactions minimal as thats not who i want to be
i dont think he’d call sod boring as a wolf
because
the way he comes into thread, and his feelings sound like something town would have
he shows lack of interest in a townie way
except a lot of his first posts showed specifically heightened interest
hi ok
@Centuries what’s your read on katze so farim already getting arete and orange confused send help
mist how many of my games have you read
like
three and not closely
why
which three
umineko higurashi sf3 off the top of my head
so all town games
got it
ye
i don’t have any experience with your wolf game at least not that i remember
i’m also not counting hydra games partially because hydras mess with meta partially because i forgot they existed
mostly the latter
did you read G1 or is this referencing something else
hydra 5 from last year mostly
i didnt read g1 why do you think i was complaining so much about the postcounts
yeah g5/marbleympics were also both town games
thanks
marblelympics didn’t happen and you can’t convince me it did
hey mistyx since you’re here
do you have any reads yet?
not substantially
…that goes for the being here part as well
I’m getting good vibes off of arete and orange and i think conroy’s katze read makes a lot of sense
weren’t you voting me
also did dat ever answer that question of Arete’s I pinged him with or has he refused to take a stance on me beyond an OMGUS vote
so @orangeandblack5 u gonna respond to my response yet?
no because I literally said “beyond the OMGUS vote”
And i literally provided the quote
Honestly tempted to scumread Arete for this pfp nonsense
inciting confusion helps scum
not ai
unfortunately
ill take the bait
why do you v read solic
presumably something along the lines of SSWCMTHDH
acronym plz help
an acronym I refuse to explain until you give your reasoning
nice keysmash
DUDE I GAVE YOU THE QUOTE. WHERE I DIRECTLY RESPONDED TO THE QUESTION. Read it
dat are you ok
No im not
clearly
oh i apologize. I shouldnt have flipped
Solic:ESPECIALLY, since they seem to have the morals of taking the high road when scum as seen by
but that’s so easy for scum to do
I can’t read it as AI in good faith
But with what motivation? He wasn’t doing it in a form of trying to defend against accusations, but just spreading their own general annoyance at things.
It’s “pro-town”
and in fact I’d argue that it’s scummier than not because obviously you and I would have no need to get in a massive thread-drowning fight post-rerand
so like what tf is encouraging us supposed to actually do other than look good
orangeandblack5:It’s “pro-town”
But it’s “toxic” to play that up as scum, which is what Birdo believes, so I don’t think they would do so.
orangeandblack5:so like what tf is encouraging us supposed to actually do other than look good
I don’t think that post was really AI for them. I think making that post shows they have some set of morals they will apply in general and that makes the other posts AI.
icy ball oof
i don’t know what this is but whatever it is i should probably stop
hi mist how are you
what exactly lead you to go from pushing me to thinking I’m town
yes
tbh the initial push was like, 40% joking and 50% acknowledgeably bad
i also literally dont remember what made me flip my read on you
so lets go with “gut lol”
@orangeandblack5 can you explain your Bird read?
It boils down to his statement of boredom really not being in like with his opener or several of his followups
Also weak stances but
Yea, but don’t you feel it is in line with the post they made right before it and Geydes question?
Let me check on the post before
But in terms of Geyde’s question, no
DatBird:good morning, now spill the beans, whos dying today marshal
What
orange is reminding me of umineko a lot so v points for him
you were scum in that game so what exactly is applicable across that boundary that you’re seeing?
comfort in thread primarily
also haha postcount go brrr
You have definitely not read any of my scumgames
didn’t we already establish that
can you provide a link then
This comes to mind immediately lmao
im not reading that
just the one post really
Up until after Blaze flipped I was treated as strong town by most players on tone and thread comfort
that’s usual imo
that was when me ramming through two village wagons finally caught up with me
okay
so are you saying i should not be townreading you
not for those reasons tbh
pretty sure my two highest postcounts were both scum games and people whiff me on tone/comfort all the time
so what reasons should i be townreading you for?
Eventually I plan to have results or have been nightkilled
And that’s basically the best way to read me
I think the last time that strategy backfired was like
NFoL2
okay fair enough
i am no longer reading orange and black five
I’d prefer if that isn’t literally not reading my posts but in general I’ll either get >1 pelt or get nked
i mean it wasn’t going to be that until you said it c:
actually arguably SF3 I didn’t really get anybody
but admittedly that game was like over SoD2
anyways gth reads
katze (unrescinded PR claim gets to the top automatically wowee)
Vulgard
GeydeSulit
Icibalus
Arete
Solic
Marshal
Mistyx
CenturiesHippo
DatBird
tiers not sorted
actually that’s kind of a lie
tiers somewhat sorted
I may have stopped sorting at the end but
Anybody know how late Dat stays up
Trying to figure out how hard I should push for other people to join the wagon
Given VC was p light on dat votes last I saw
Would appreciate a few more
/vote Dat
this wagon is also fine and kat’s points with Geyde make a reasonable amount of sense (though an explanation would still be cool)
sort by postcount become werewolf expert :^)
I want it known that I was typing that up before Orange posted 1102
I mean sure but I had just asked so
Dat has notable™ volume tells
as far as I remember volume was NAI for Solic
arete
shut
?
jdi
fwiw
I think Hippo/Dat wagons feel ideal
Hippo has done things that stand out to me
The problem is none of them make me think he’s town
He also has solid partner equity with Dat, although I am admittedly not a PFA fan and would by no means stake the game on that pair
does anyone village read mist
I no longer scum read them?
I vaguely thought her read on orange posting the pregame Discord to get meta-read town was a villagery thing to think of
don’t really remember much else from that slot
I got the polar opposite on the receiving end
how much of that is because it was targeted at you
Considering I became less suspicious when they mentioned having read none of my scum games
Probably a fair bit
i pocketed arete pre-pre-game by hydraing with them
lmaooo
Weren’t they scumreading you for that
they cited the game as evidence that i do stupid things as town but usually have logical (to me) reasons for them
and i did a stupid thing this game without a reason to it
but im pretty sure that “katze usually does RTs with more meaning as town” is a read arete has used on me before the hydra event so
i guess? not really? joy?
Anyways you’re using a scum pfp so ur scum
so vote me
I would but Dat is more scum
Ah
Hi Dat
datbird has litrlly not made a single scumread or townread and chloe and astand are bitches for not adding a dayvig to the setup so he couldn’t get a chance
speaking of the devil
Marshal:datbird has litrlly not made a single scumread or townread and chloe and astand are bitches for not adding a dayvig to the setup so he couldn’t get a chance
jesus
Marshal:datbird has litrlly not made a single scumread or townread
I bet you can’t guess what makes up my bottom tier
this is ground control
calling major bird
@DatBird wheres your head at right now
who da woofies
kat no
fuck
if I wanted to ping him
I’d have pinged him
Anyways I was afraid I was heavily heavily confbiasing him but going straight into catchup and not checking in at all feels >rand scummy imo
Esp with another wall there
cue angry “but I didn’t see it” when that’s literally the point
commence tunnel woo
dat you should vote hippo if you don’t like his posts
I promise we’ll all locktown you if he flips red
orangeandblack5:Anyways I was afraid I was heavily heavily confbiasing him but going straight into catchup and not checking in at all feels >rand scummy imo
I like been checking back and forth between catchup of my first post back, so boom got ya
cool so you chose to ignore it
orangeandblack5:dat you should vote hippo if you don’t like his posts
I promise we’ll all locktown you if he flips red
i want to keep reading first but thats where my heads at
That works out well!
orangeandblack5:cool so you chose to ignore it
chose to ignore what?
just vote hippo
/vote Hippo
:wowee: its subject to change im still back 600 posts
lol thats hammer!
glgl
thats like obv rt
Vote Count
Accused Voters Number Hippoyeetus Vulgard, Geyde, DatBird 3/7 DatBird orangeandblack5, Arete, Marshal 3/7 Marshal sulit, Mistyx 2/7 katze Centuries 1/7 Solic Hippoyeetus 1/7 Not voting Solic, Icibalus, katze 3
I hate those so much
Now we’re podracing
Anyways I’m prob going to bed but I feel p good about current top wagons
Marshal:katze?
more like shutze fuck up
katze:wholeheartedly: fuck you
lets keep this like civil people.
says the guy who flipped out earlier
DatBird:says the guy who flipped out earlier
I don’t remember that?
I yelled at you over a misunderstanding and then felt like extremely bad. My emotions have been wild this week, and I really need to keep them in line
I mean it’s text so
“yelling” is like
but the anger was there, and then i cried as i felt like a shit person. Sure u might not have been affected but thats not how i should act
dat/orange not w/w
Shocker
Like I cannot overstate how obvious that should have already been lmao
Which is also more or less what I was saying to mist ig
Song over
Going to bed after dat’s next post
inb4 he pulls a luxx
whats that?
alr gn
Vulgard:the reason i think orange is town is because he has 285 posts and i didn’t see him care about his position in the thread in like 99% of these posts
some of these posts could even be interpreted as potentially dangerous to his thread position
so yeah i’m fairly comfortable with orange v for this reasonThat’s a bad reason, because I don’t think there has been much of a challenge towards Orange, so of course they are not going to post very self-consciously, so let’s pose one. I think they have been handling Bird’s slot unfairly and hardfocusing on one minor interaction. Their view has been too narrow and they are trying to powerwolf Birdo out today by using their thread presence.
/vote Orange
How do you feel about it if he flips mafia tho
fair
i like this
although to be fair i did directly attack orange earlier and he had some responses to it
did that move the needle either way for you, solic?
Oh wait
I mean uh
fuck you solic ur bad at teh game
/vote Solic
/vote Dat
I’m Pretty Sure Their “Rescind” Was Just To Get Arete To Read Them
katzeTownread
Vulgard
GeydeTownlean
Sulit
Icibalus
AreteNullish
Solic
Centuries
MarshalMeh
MistyxWould Lynch
Hippo
DatBird
Why vote Datbird?
He had mentioned liking dat’s wagon earlier
You know I didn’t want to read their ISO, because it seemed too long, but they literally only hold one sentence posts and the main way they push pretty much their main read is “DAT SCUM”, “DAT SCUM” “DAT SCUM” and the sole reason that they did give I even interpreted that differently.
I miss the substance in these reads as well.
Solic:You know I didn’t want to read their ISO, because it seemed too long, but they literally only hold one sentence posts
Yeah that’s the point
This is way more readable than walls
Solic:I miss the substance in these reads as well.
I’m happy to answer any questions on any particular slots!
so no datbird because you’re preflipping orange as scum
Part of the reason is that I dislike their wagon yes, but I gave a wallpost on Bird earlier. They gave out frustrated townie more so than annoyed scum.
I do hope they show up and make it somewhat more apparent themselves and shape up.
Me too
orangeandblack5:I’m happy to answer any questions on any particular slots!
You can substantiate all the reads, if you’re happy to do so.
I’ve been saying stuff as it happens mostly
I mean I was literally a wolf in Shortnight
like yes ‘Seth is an IC’ is what, on a practical level, won the game for town but ‘wolves get demotivated and play suboptimally’ was definitely a thing that happened
how would you say dat’s play here compares to there
that’s not very helpful lol
oh wait he was a quarter of the thread
it was litterally fighting with an Seth that arete was wolf and seth being seth didnt give a shit as his first 2 second reads gotta be right
okay so
consider this scenario where my first 2 second read on you has gotta be right
what do
I fight you on it
are you though?
I feel like you spent as much time apologizing to me
not really anymore, was. ATP i dont really care as your points have been disproven.
have they though
I’ll lend my vote here
/vote mist
@Mistyx You have committed crimes against Skyrim and her people. What say you in your defense?
uhhhh
god i know this meme hold on
ok i give up what is my next line
Presumably some sort of reads or defense
Up to you really
no i dont think i will
thats not in response to anything in particular i just will not
Neat
understand this is not a conscious decision and it’s just my brain shutting down at the idea of trying to be productive
EoD’s a ways away no rush
/vote Mistyx
@katze @Mistyx lets quickhammer before the village can react
posting to acknowledge the fact that I am aware mist is at L-2
this isnt lylo why are you posting this
what
i dont understand why you’re posting a post to publicly acknowledge someone is at L-2
Just noting that I could unvote
But am not going to
if i put her at L-1 would you unvote
Probably
Not because I wouldn’t love to catch someone on that, but instead because I don’t trust people to check before voting
reasonable
not sure why D1 majority is even enabled but i didn’t notice that until like, yesterday, so :wowee:
the latter half of this day has felt extremely slow and idk how to feel about it
Hard agree on D1 maj being dumb
majority is art
chloe pls hammer mist with me
Just re-iso’d mist and am coming around to the idea of an early hammer
eod overrated
mist could post a picture of their wolf rolecard and i’d still say early hammer is cringe and stupid
although i suppose there’s other problems involved with that hypothetical but you get the point
early hammer boring
But also
I could stop living itt
i want mist to have
chance to do thing even tho I think they’re wolf wolf wolf
orangeandblack5:But also
I could stop living itt
you could die n1
sulit:i want mist to have
chance to do thing even tho I think they’re wolf wolf wolf
They just declared they’re doing nothing
ok but they might later
katze:you could die n1
I’ll take a redflip and getting nked
I thought dat was gonna be my cob
apparently it wasn’t meant to be him
wait but Cob was a villager
I thought you wolfread Mist
Yes
Also yes
I quickhammered in G1 and it was scum so I at least am on a good record
Someone vote mist and I definitely won’t hammer and then pretend it was typo if town
/vote Mist
I know who’s voting them already
/vote missed
oh no my quickhammer has been foiled
/vote katze
Actually low-key would be interested to see if Hippo would hammer
Vote mist u won’t
Also what the flip is
hippo if you vote mist first ill hammer
I wanna hammer so if they are mafia I claim 100% of credit and do nothing till endgame
I have a thought
what’s your thought
I’m not telling you
Mainly because I don’t need to
then why did you say that you had one
Either I’ll survive the night or you’ll figure it out on a backread
But if I don’t bring it up you probably won’t do that latter one
@Mistyx if you selfvote I’ll give you a cookie
i think that is not a good call given that i am in fact a pr
/vote misty
/vote hippo
im gonna type just to scare people but lol pr claim
/unvote
katze:im gonna type just to scare people but lol pr claim
Fuck you holy shit
Let me ruminate on whether or not we should have mist and/or kat claim a category/role
I haven’t given it any thought yet
Should other prs ever bother ccing?
with kat already claiming? no
im gonna do homework for a bit but ill have thread open in the background
@ me if you need anything
don’t tell my parents
That explains a lot
Mistyx:i think that is not a good call given that i am in fact a pr
Hippolytus:/vote misty
not going to lie I hate this vote regardless of whether Mist’s claim is true
They weren’t in hammer range though
that vote put me 1 away
Which, clearly, nobody in thread took
If mist is scum why wait until they claim to vote them
like what
ftr if mist is a PR this rand is ludicrously townsided
I do agree
as a fun bonus fact i softed my role earlier if someone wants to go find it
If you’re gonna say that, and you actually did, why not just out the claim
I’m like
I don’t trust the claim but I’m scared to actually vote her out given the claim?
I think this makes the game easy
?
Mist is now self-resolving
Absolute win
/vote Centuries
fwiw I still think mist is scum because if not the game jumps up an entire difficulty level
but we’ll figure that out automatically so nbd
Mist should be forced to claim type
Come up with a good argument for why that’s worth it when if they aren’t protective they could in theory be healed/jailkept
Or even if they are ig
Thanks 5/6
Mistyx/Dat/Orange is v/v/w or w/wv
@Mistyx as long as you’re claiming “person that in theory dies tonight” do you wanna give any reads
Can I scumread mist off of Hippo’s vote on them?
I think I might be doing that rn lmao
Somebody stop me
i mean
i dont think im dying tonight given how many people have said they dont believe me
but my reads are not updated from the last time i stated them
Which
Probably in theory happened
now im not saying i’m either a protective that cannot spawn with JK or a class that spaws with 3 or higher, but I am saying to vote mistyx for vbucks
Honestly I’d be on that train
here’s why
Hippolytus:/vote misty
that’s why
okay explain this to me
okay so
remember that thought from earlier
orange is claiming vt
Actually you totally not claiming a conflicting role doesn’t do anything other then add confidence
anyways
that thought
okay Marshal
you don’t have to keep covering for me
I debated whether or not to out this D1 when I could just roleblock her and maybe cut off a scum night action but I am CCing Mist
Marshal I appreciate you claiming to cover for me but you don’t have to keep it up now, I think this is better than your soft attempt
/vote Mist
jfc is that like 5 pr claims
Can I CC Arete
go wild
fuck you arete
I’m the real dirty dan
yeah ok
/vote mist
lol
yeet me into dvc
I guess I owe you this
don’t actually lynch them
no like legit everyone unvote the outed scum
do i get to lolcat now
yes
Okay so my earlier thought is still important as it was that hippo/mist was specifically tvs
Uncounterclaimed Wolf
Mistyx
i added a new section in my readlist just for you mist
I don’t CC that one tbh
just remember that L-2 is now L-1
orangeandblack5:Okay so my earlier thought is still important as it was that hippo/mist was specifically tvs
also going back to this
i think i follow, i just don’t agree
alright so like you were goading him into trying to vote mist and like
look at how that played out
he didn’t do it then, when if he was svs with mist he honestly would have if he was going for cred imo, which is where my tvs read initially came from
BUT THEN
mist claimed pr
then he put her on L-1
like
excuse me
how you gonna get anything out of a buddy fakeclaiming if you quickhammer them
you should ask yourself that
@thespooksters
regardless i see what you’re saying
but mist was ~outted at that point anyway
that would have to be either a gigabrain “vote me to L-1 so people think you wouldn’t put a buddy up and hope a real PR doesn’t hammer or anyone else really and ruin the point of fakeclaiming” or uncoordinated as fuck
like that’s so much risk or so much stupid that I don’t see either coming from this team?
they probably are talking and they probably want the outed PR, why risk it for meager towncred for hippo of all slots
so I think we just instagib conboi
but like dude’s literally the next in line
what does he buy lol
time
if the 3rd wolf is deep enough buying even a day is probably much more valuable than you think
if it’s hippo/mist/deepwolf they’re about to need to really hardcarry
anyways
either convince me I shouldn’t vote conroy or vote him with me
why do you think specifically conroy is W/W with mist
im lazy
I don’t but I also don’t need to because I haven’t backread since they outed
Solic:I don’t hate this.
Honestly hate this post ama
like in particular I can ~buy that Solic townreads Mist, sure, but in particular him framing that as if it’s some sort of improvement that he “doesn’t hate” when it was a slot he had only had positive words about in the past feels unnatural
am I clear yet
well if I hadn’t seen anything that happened in Game 1 I’d be like ‘orange doesn’t bus, he is lockclear never rescind’
since I did in fact see some of the things that happened in Game 1 I’m like ‘orange is probably spewed villager but I’m not willing to 100 percent bet the game on it yet’
wdym
I may have had my vote on spooksters at times but A the slot was spooksters and B you’ll note we at no point ever had it on when it mattered
look I even did the whole “I’m not unvoting on L-2 ” thing i deserve this
that’s what I was thinking of yeah
I read like five posts of yours and one of them was you voting Spooksters so possibly I’m overestimating the strength of your push on them
it’s true
also it’s now effectively D2
so Dat’s back on the menu
Let me make a list I guess
Townread
Vulgard
Arete
Geyde
MarshalTownlean
Icibalus
SulitNull
katze
SolicScumlean
DatBird
Hippo
Centuries
actually hippo probably earned more points from mist being scum tbh
Townread
Vulgard
Arete
Geyde
MarshalTownlean
Icibalus
SulitNull
Hippolytus
katze
SolicScumlean
DatBird
Centuries
Mistyx:i mean
i dont think im dying tonight given how many people have said they dont believe me
but my reads are not updated from the last time i stated them
Note to self
Instantlynch this if I ever see it again
>rand W
Hippo
also can you explain where hippo/mist wolf team makes more sense than not
oh hi dat
what’s poppin
finished a lot of minitures, and now back to thinking bout game
imo it felt like a lackluster read when he said it. It had none of that geyde oomph that his reads usually have. But i think the rest of his content is like really good enough that that one post doesnt change my perceptions on the slot. I think Geyde is just obv villager
Dat what is your read on:
Me
Hippo
Geyde
orangeandblack5:Me
annoyingly town
orangeandblack5:Hippo
scum
orangeandblack5:Geyde
villager
orangeandblack5:Geyde
Oh you just gave that one
Okay can anyone scumreading hippo explain his stuff re:kat before and through the fake pr claim
Because I’m not seeing it
Like it’s possible it was staged or incredibly uncoordinated but like
Very unlikely imo
orangeandblack5:re:kat before
re kat stuff I found like whining and still a lack of content, i didnt feel it was AI
orangeandblack5:through the fake pr claim
from my memory he just voted mist like two seconds after mist voted was there more to it? tbf i kinda skimmed
Go re-read that and think about what scum!hippo would be doing given mist is, in fact, scum
Ugh fine, ill get to that at some point.
Like I was able to pick up on it before mist was outed so I don’t think it’s that hard to realize hippo’s actions there make little conventional sense as scum if mist is also scum
On that note after waking up I now do want mist lynched today
I’m going to blame me pushing for a different wagon on being tired
That being said I obviously do agree this is basically just D2
Also just gonna note that Geyde was voting mist early has has also been on Dat/Hippo quite strongly
Make of that what you will
i’m treating these 7 hours of mistyx being an outed mafia member as an opportunity to figure out her motivation
/unvote if i haven’t already, just to make sure nothing but mistyx actually goes over today
Okay I’m not that afraid
Just back on the idea that yes mist should die
Geyde/Centuries is a team I could see but like
You guys say you’d “need to bus” as scum here but I really think that would be ill-informed
For example, consider that scum!Geyde here would be placing Solic, Centuries, Dat, and Hippo, and mist all in his PoE (alongside Marshal/Katze), a grouping that is decently likely to contain the last wolf
He successfully gets one or even both of them lynched and gets some cred
Now you fight the uphill battle of trying to comeback against people who can be really towny as town which is just an awful position to be in and unlikely to be a winning strategy
Feels like a bad move
that thinking is not compatible with how datbird treated the mistyx slot if he’s mafia, but he could’ve (in theory) not been there for it
i think it was one of two worlds
either mistyx was genuinely surprised and threatened and claimed pr as a panic move
or it was all planned and the other wolves helped make the wagon happenmistyx’s flip would help suggest either possibility
if she’s goon it’s a bit more likely the 2nd option is in play
if she’s pr it’s a bit more likely the 1st option is in play
Going by the fact that this is kinda G1-y I’ma roll with “had a plan to claim if needed but wasn’t planning to until people started discussing quickhammering them”
Like I don’t see why a middle ground can’t exist
orangeandblack5:You guys say you’d “need to bus” as scum here but I really think that would be ill-informed
orangeandblack5:Feels like a bad move
i also think it’s kinda weird that wolves would randomly decide to bus mistyx when we were considering hippo/datbird
which is a grouping that probably contains at least one town if my datbird/hippo not w/w read holds truewhich is why i’m thinking it’s potentially a wagon that got out of control really quickly. a wolf may or may not have joined it but either way mistyx evidently felt threatened enough to claim
I mean I was literally trying to convince people to hammer
exactly
which is why i think you should be spewed v based on what happened there but i’m slightly paranoid about the possibility of you making an omega towncred play
still would not consider killing you for at least two or three phases
I… can’t argue with that
That being said is it still an omega towncred play if dat flips scum
dat flipping scum would clear a ton of people including you so yeah it’s not an omega towncred play then
But what if I went in trying to hardbus my whole team for insane credit
i don’t think you like bussing that much?
Exactly
But like
Vulgard:i don’t think you like bussing that much?
That’s exactly why it’s so effective
lmao
It is something I could easily just… decide to do
i’m surprised nobody delved into the posts surrounding the push on mistyx before me, because they tell us a lot fmpov
I literally did re:hippo
Outside of that I was asleep lol
Hippolytus:cuz we aren’t good enough to find mafia without mafia helping.
I do not agree with this take considering the mist wagon is very likely either pure or nearly so
I, boldly, think datbird is mafia.
bold
Now we’re podracing
based clear
morning everyone
Ah good, threatening to lynch you if you no-showed worked
im confused but idc who goes first we chop chop until the wolf dies
Now that I can get behind