something that has to wipe out the entire game and instantly loses if they die is just bad
good neutrals
- ToL Scorned
- that one neutral role that UncleDynamite puts into like every mash
bad neutrals
- all the other ones
what is it
also scorned/executioner
that’s a good one too
this isn’t even true
but neutral killer is stressful, difficult and unfun
there’s several problems with it it’s just an easier solution than “get an extra 5 subs ever game”
in the last hour of day 1/first hour of day 2, can choose someone who failed to make the post minimum, kill them, and take over their role, inheriting their alignment and win condition
if no such player exists then it can backup a dead player of their choice
would you want to play a role that inherently loses if it dies and has to make it to F1
in a small player game no not really
in a mash I can see how that would be hell so I don’t really know what to say
you’re basically sacrificing one player’s fun for kp balance that could easily be done if you balanced it around the wolves instead of a neutral (instantly loses if they die before winning) who has to wipe out the entire fucking game with nothing but a gun, a vest and a dream
that seems like
but with extra steps
good neutrals
- ToL Scorned
marking is anti fun in ToL
it might actually be funner in FoL so what the fuck is up with that
how to make a good NK
step 1. don’t
thanks for coming to my ted talk
it’d be sick to pick a target and shade them for 72 hours
probably more fun than randing someone who you can read by clicking on their pfp and looking at a two digit number
Okay but
If untrusted has all survivors, why can’t we :^)
bad neutrals
- all
the correct answer
- Serial Killers, or 3p roles that are basically an entire faction by themselves. Some people dislike them, but I don’t feel like the amount of dislike they receive on this site is enough to completely rule them out. Plus, SKs on this site generally die before late-game so they don’t impact the game by much.
- Jesters. I get that some people hate them cough IciandOrange cough , but except game-ending jesters they don’t warp the game too much unlike multiball or conversions.
- Dead interaction. Honestly, I feel like the only reason DI is disliked on this site was because of Geyde solving Drakengard from beyond the grave with Boss’ help.
- Lost Wolves. Like, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a FM here that used LWs, so I’m still keeping it.
- Millers, Godfathers, Tailors, and Framers. Duh.
Dealbreaker
Dealbreaker
Dealbreaker
whatever
not a dealbreaker but will never pan out in any way that’s fun for the players
good neutrals
- ToL Scorned
- that one neutral role that UncleDynamite puts into like every mash
btw as someone who randed that 2nd neut its a p dogshit role for the person who rands it lol, it makes the game less fun, takes all of your wim out but leaves you completely lost come EoD and d2 because you didnt read anything
I feel like that role’s just a cop-out to deal with slankers/flakers.
i mean yeah it’s entire purpose is as slank balance, which is fine in theory but is annoying asf to actually rand