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The Golem is a good role. Change my mind.

the golem is incredibly boring
change my opinion

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I was going to answer what happens to a Golem who nominates a Virgin and realised the Virgin dies.
Because lol! Iā€™m a dummy and forget the Golem was an outsider.

what is golem

A new outsider who can only nominate once. If they nominate anyone except the Demon, their nominee dies.

why is that an outsider role

They can only nominate once, and outsider abilities hurt the good team usually.

ok but being able to kill a player seems pretty good

Having 2 confirmed non demon players by itself is good. As they are confirmed not Demon.
On the other the price is that one of them is unable to nominate again and the other confirmed non demon player is dead. Which can hurt the good team a lot if itā€™s a strong role such as investigative (Fortune Teller, Chambermaid, Flowergirl, Snake Charmer etc) or a protective (Monk, Soldier, Innkeeper etc).

golem deez NUTS lmao gottem

I deserve death

Hey I know that guy.
Heā€™s a fun guy.

Golem is one of the least outsidery outsiders tbh

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Anyway Fearmonger when

what is fearmonger
ive seen it in the wiki but i tried clicking it and it doesnt have a page
nya

Itā€™s unreleased but uh

Everyone knows it is in play, but each night it chooses someone. If it noms them the next day and they get executed, the fearmongerā€™s team wins

that uh
certainly is a role
pit hag good fearmonger

Itā€™s hard to explain but I would say it depends script wise.

The basic premise is that not being only to nominate again gives evil an extra win condition of living to F3 with Golem and 2 evils alive, resulting in an auto evil win.

But you can do other fancy golem stuff such as with Fang Gu, Witch, Pit Hag and Tinker.

Or put it in a script with lots of ā€œcannot dieā€ effects.

Alchemist

I think the problem is

It is super script dependent

But unlike Heretic it doesnā€™t even have that many interesting interactions

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