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Barrier protects against occupation

Cw isnā€™t useless :slight_smile:

I had completely forgotten about that. Yeah CW is counterplay but itā€™s entirely possible to be in games where one doesnā€™t spawn (see: Knight vs N2 Empower Reap King).

Honestly now Iā€™m stuck wondering why more alcoholics donā€™t do HH + Assassinate on the king to step upā€¦

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Becauseā€¦

Most drunks forgot that it removes immunitiesā€¦

Like me

Oh wait

Canā€™t HH king

Well thatā€™d explain why it doesnā€™t happen.

HH should be able to target the King, imo.

I think my real opposition to this is Iā€™d rather see the ability to interrupt executions put elsewhere rather than in the hands of the already strong Drunk/Alcoholic.

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A converted drunk is so weak compared to a servant.

A drunk is so powerfull compared to a butler

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If an Alchaholic tricks you into hanging a fool then you really were outplayed.

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He gives trhe prince another glass of beer.

See that guy. Heā€™s a monster. Look
At him in the closet. Heā€™s a unseen get
Em

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For C if you donā€™t know the Assassin then you arenā€™t being Counterplayed. You just arenā€™t playing in the first place.

If anything the Alchaholic missplayed as you now have reason to suspect them AND any drunk claims.

B and D would work because you know they are claiming Drunk and you know if this is happening.

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If yā€™all donā€™t mind I am here for badges I am going to be a like slave brb

And then the game becomes ā€œauto-exe any drunk claims so they donā€™t HH the prince,ā€ probably. So still a win for the Unseen.

For C, thereā€™s no reason for the Alcoholic to not HH regardless of whose in jail. Being conservative with your abilities there just means youā€™ll have missed using them when youā€™re turned into assassin. Plus you put suspicion on other drunk claims which is less royal blood youā€™ve gotta convert.

B & D assume you pick the right alcoholic rather than the wrong drunk.

Great. Those plays you just listed sound like a fun consequence of this potential change. (Besides auto exeing drunks which seems unlikely).

What about pally?

Yass! /support already

Also YASS

I donā€™t now if I like this one tbh

Again, Yass!

Again, Yass!

Pally thing is cool.

I feel like you should also bewilder to Servant tbh

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The issue here is that this will out the Servant immediately. If a King gets bewildered in an Unseen game then theyā€™ll instantly know that the Butler was converted, in the same way that Mental Blur outs an Illusionist or a bad use of Defile or Drug outs a Herbalist.