Buffs Nerfs Suggestions!

[Firekitten]

You do know

Barrier protects against occupation

[Firekitten]

Cw isn’t useless

[UncannyLuck]

I had completely forgotten about that. Yeah CW is counterplay but it’s entirely possible to be in games where one doesn’t spawn (see: Knight vs N2 Empower Reap King).

Honestly now I’m stuck wondering why more alcoholics don’t do HH + Assassinate on the king to step up…

[Firekitten]

Because…

Most drunks forgot that it removes immunities…

Like me

[Firekitten]

Oh wait

Can’t HH king

[UncannyLuck]

Well that’d explain why it doesn’t happen.

HH should be able to target the King, imo.

I think my real opposition to this is I’d rather see the ability to interrupt executions put elsewhere rather than in the hands of the already strong Drunk/Alcoholic.

[Firekitten]

A converted drunk is so weak compared to a servant.

A drunk is so powerfull compared to a butler

[NuclearBurrito]

@UncannyLuck

Tbh if you got HH’d out of an execution then you’d probably go with C anyway. And then hang a fool 'cause you were against 2000 IQ Unseen.

If an Alchaholic tricks you into hanging a fool then you really were outplayed.

[Firekitten]

He gives trhe prince another glass of beer.

See that guy. He’s a monster. Look
At him in the closet. He’s a unseen get
Em

[NuclearBurrito]

@UncannyLuck

B and C are fine if you know who they are as is D.

For C if you don’t know the Assassin then you aren’t being Counterplayed. You just aren’t playing in the first place.

If anything the Alchaholic missplayed as you now have reason to suspect them AND any drunk claims.

B and D would work because you know they are claiming Drunk and you know if this is happening.

[Firekitten]

If y’all don’t mind I am here for badges I am going to be a like slave brb

[UncannyLuck]

And then the game becomes “auto-exe any drunk claims so they don’t HH the prince,” probably. So still a win for the Unseen.

For C, there’s no reason for the Alcoholic to not HH regardless of whose in jail. Being conservative with your abilities there just means you’ll have missed using them when you’re turned into assassin. Plus you put suspicion on other drunk claims which is less royal blood you’ve gotta convert.

B & D assume you pick the right alcoholic rather than the wrong drunk.

[NuclearBurrito]

Great. Those plays you just listed sound like a fun consequence of this potential change. (Besides auto exeing drunks which seems unlikely).

[Firekitten]

What about pally?

[Htm]

@Firelitten

Any sheriffs he redirects to himself will find him as non suspicious.

This is due to the HATED MOMENTS of redirecting a sheriff to you and them calling you out on it.

Yass! /support already

@Firelitten

Happy hour now BYPASSES THE PRINCE OCCUPY IMMUNITY. So there is counter play to a prince axing a unseen member. Drunk doesn’t bypass the prince occupy immunity even though it says it bypasses all immunities. So now he can bypass prince which is a small nerf to the prince, which is really needed.

Also YASS

@Firelitten

The Servant now can also poison the king. The servant poisons the king the same way butler does, No notification shows. It kills the king and if the king is evil, The servant will commit suicide.

Overall I feel as if the servant needs a way to also deal with a good king, same way the butler does with a evil king.

I don’t now if I like this one tbh

@Firelitten

Servant now learns the people who attended his party. Does not tell them what they visited for.

Again, Yass!

@Firelitten

Smite can now target themselves, and it kills the Cult leader if they try to convert the person you targeted. Now you are unconvertible when you use smite, unless you were occupied. So you smite yourself and kill the cult leader if they tried to convert you. Or you can smite someone else and if the cult leader tries to convert you. it will fail, but not kill the cult leader.

Again, Yass!

[NuclearBurrito]

Pally thing is cool.

[Htm]

I feel like you should also bewilder to Servant tbh

[Alice]

The issue here is that this will out the Servant immediately. If a King gets bewildered in an Unseen game then they’ll instantly know that the Butler was converted, in the same way that Mental Blur outs an Illusionist or a bad use of Defile or Drug outs a Herbalist.