Casual vs "Competitive" Tol

This will probably not even get to the place I want to, but I will state what will happen here

This is an active discussion, meaning all opinions are respected

The purpose of this is to get other’s opinions on the state of casual vs the state of competitive Tol

All posts will be read by me and important posts whether posts I agree or disagree with will be posted on the front of this post.

I will start with my opinions but later on, I will remove them.


Casual/Classic

Brakuren: "The state of casual is horrid. Casual is supposed to be fun for all players but has led to me and many others not having fun in it. I am not talking about the meta but am instead talking about how the number of players who have played the game for a while are not playing the game because it lacks excitement (E.I Me)


Competitive


Competitive (ToL esports) is a joke. Going off a point system is making it so that luck comes first and points come second.

By casual do you mean the Casual gamemode or are you talking about unranked/genpop?

unranked

Might wanna clear that up

On a semi-related note

Competitive ToL has no future atm

https://forum.imperium42.com/t/please-do-not-add-a-ranked-mode/33151/2?u=orangeandblack5

Oooo, I’ll take the bait.
Unranked right now is the entire game, if you boot up ToL your option is unranked.
If the game is becoming stale for you, there is a chance that’s got nothing to do with the players you’re playing against and more it’s just stale.
Could you elaborate why you’re not a fan of the current modes, and what you think should change?

I don’t have a opinion on that. That was the reason I created this thread is because I don’t know why exactly I dislike the current state of ToL. It is not the Meta because I was like this before the prince meta

Ranked is hard to do well in a Mafia game.

The only reason I would remotely consider as good is a way to avoid playing with new players, as it can be infuriating to play with as they may not have understanding of the game.

But even with that, these players do need to learn to acheive that understanding, and more experienced players can help with that.

Overall I see it as bringing very little reward.