Changes that still need to happen [1.0.15]

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#1

Right now the game is in a fairly good state. That being said there are still some things that need changing before the game is basically perfect.

This is in order of importance
1: Ally’s needs to be replaced. I’m sure it will take a few attempts to get right but the king should not be able to Investigate. This Ability could be replaced with a social or Support Ability in order to furfill it’s old function.

2: The Inquisitor and sorcerer need a rework. A neutral killer does not deserve a hardcounter. Period. I suggest making the sorcerer a normal Neutral Killer and making the Inquisitor a Neutral with the current Sorcs wincon and similar night Ability’s.

3: The Illusionist and the Apostle need access to dead chat. By that I mean like how the Apostle has dark words until the latest patch. The illusionist and Apostle both need that passive in order to provide engagement to dead members of that faction.

#2

  1. Since the noble no longer has it, I think the king should have allies replaced with the old noble’s royal decree or order, but with limited uses. King is not supposed to give leads, he is supposed to get them and then point the rest of the court in the right direction. I think protecting someone from being accused or from accusing someone could help him do that.

  2. I agree with Inquisitor and sorcerer needing changes. I would go even farther and suggest changing sorcerer to NOT being a neutral killer, instead make her similar to the inquisitor and turn her victory condition into living until she sees the inquisitor dead. I know this is too extreme and might never happen but I would like to see a true game of cat and mouse where two neutrals just care about killing each other.

#3

Best solution for sorcerer vs inquisitor = have circle of death be only targetable on the sorcerer itself, unlimited uses but a two day cooldown. Sorcerer is death immune when using circle

#4

Sorcerer already is death immune

#5

To add to this list. Ranked needs to be a thing. That or at least some kind of veteran lobby.

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#6

  1. Agreed. Maybe it could be removed and royal finger would be replaced with prince’s imprison. This would still allow it to investigate, but it wouldn’t be as powerful. Or keep royal finger, but replace allies with an ability that works similar to prince’s imprison, except it’s during the day(meaning that the target would only be able to hear and talk to the king. They would also not be able to be voted up or targeted by day abilities. They may not use day abilities or vote during this time).

  2. Agreed, but sorcerer would need a huge buff it it’s win con was changed.

  3. agreed

#7

I’d consider not having to worry about the Inquisitor a buff. I’m sure we could just give her a day Ability that helped deal with BD rather than Inquisitor could help too. Also perception would need to be reverted so she could kill evils.

#8

No support on the king check makes it hard for evil king to find their faction and if invests die the kings 4 checks help

#9

There are other ways to accomplish that. Especially if there is a difference between the Evil and Good kings.

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#10

Oh. I almost Forgot about this one. The number of heal messages should be depending on the number of attacks healed rather than the number of healers targeting you.

So if 2 physicians heal you of nightshade you only get 1 message.

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#11

Much agreed with the healing message thing. That way, if someone claimed to be healed, multiple people could claim phys or alch.

And I like Royal Decree more for the King, as it would fit for Good or Evil Kings who know that there is a certain member on their side who is likely to be voted up tomorrow.

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#12

Why not both? PM does work well with the Psychic who is based on hidden communication but it could also work on the king.

It wouldn’t be the only Ability that multiple classes have.

#13

I just realized Private Matter being for the King would mean that Royal Finger or Decide Fate would have to go, both of which are pretty essential for a King role in my opinion, unlike Allies.

#14

No. It can be a night Ability.

#15

Ohhh I see, it would be have all your whispers tomorrow be hidden?

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#16

Yup! Noble used to have that for a bit. Unlimited uses too.

#17

I see, ok, so we have 3 options for replacing the King’s allies?

And I think all Kings should have all abilities, not just the starting King

#18

No. Starting king HAS to be stronger than normal king. Otherwise he would be executed asap and replace with confirmed BD.

#19

Okay, then how about this idea?

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#20

Great idea

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