The old Noble spy had skill involved in who you chose to spy (personally I found spying Prince, Alchs, and other neuts to provide the most useful information). The new global spy I find too brainless. I have no expectations of it getting reverted, just wondering what others thought. Maybe there is some other way to get skill involved with this ability.
You can have all the claims in the world but you can’t prove them.
You will get claims eventually.
Gossiping is better.
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Leave Aristocrat and Apostle with the ability to read all whispers, give the Noble the ability to read the whispers to and from a selected person (other than the King).
Does basically the same thing but it has a modicum of thought and decision-making, while still leaving the threat of Aristocrat/Apostle intact.
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Agreed. It also discourages whispering too much(I’m fine with this ability for aristocrat and apostle though). Maybe it could be changed so it works like the old one, but remains until you change targets(like sheriff’s scout).
Yes, but it was too effective. It also doesn’t take any skill.
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Noble is far from a brainless class, I’d say. Making him more skill-based is definitely unnecessary. Spying is still skill-based by trying to promote whispers. Whenever I spy, I frequently urge people to claim to the king or ask for other information trying to get people to whisper each other to make it more useful. Gossip is also an ability that requires a lot of thought. Having all abilities be overly complicated, does not make for a better class. I would honestly rarely use Spy over Gossip if it could only target one person (not the king), unless in rare occasions with an aggressive Prince and BD that does not suck.
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