Chloe fan club (but only FM related) (formerly initiative to improve townplay thread) šŸ˜¹

I tend to not hyper post anyway. Though Iā€™m able to become one of the top posters without too much trouble.

Frankly here are my suggestions to combat this issue, and Iā€™m going to use RM4 as an example for why hyperposting is bad being that I was a wolf there and the thread was nonsensically long the gameā€™s size. This was a 16pā€™er that ended D3 and the thread ended with literally 15k posts and wolves absolutely dominated that game, so it should be the main case study for anti-town hyperposting on this site.


A) Stop memeā€™ing and off-topic posting in general, leave it to the cookie thread. There were plenty of excerpts in the thread that went like this.

Summary

https://forum.imperium42.com/t/fm-ritual-mafia-iv-day-4-7-16-heretics-and-traitor-win/81237/10856?u=alice

https://forum.imperium42.com/t/fm-ritual-mafia-iv-day-4-7-16-heretics-and-traitor-win/81237/10857?u=alice

https://forum.imperium42.com/t/fm-ritual-mafia-iv-day-4-7-16-heretics-and-traitor-win/81237/10858?u=alice

https://forum.imperium42.com/t/fm-ritual-mafia-iv-day-4-7-16-heretics-and-traitor-win/81237/10859?u=alice

https://forum.imperium42.com/t/fm-ritual-mafia-iv-day-4-7-16-heretics-and-traitor-win/81237/10860?u=alice

https://forum.imperium42.com/t/fm-ritual-mafia-iv-day-4-7-16-heretics-and-traitor-win/81237/10861?u=alice

https://forum.imperium42.com/t/fm-ritual-mafia-iv-day-4-7-16-heretics-and-traitor-win/81237/10862?u=alice

https://forum.imperium42.com/t/fm-ritual-mafia-iv-day-4-7-16-heretics-and-traitor-win/81237/10863?u=alice

https://forum.imperium42.com/t/fm-ritual-mafia-iv-day-4-7-16-heretics-and-traitor-win/81237/10864?u=alice

https://forum.imperium42.com/t/fm-ritual-mafia-iv-day-4-7-16-heretics-and-traitor-win/81237/10865?u=alice

https://forum.imperium42.com/t/fm-ritual-mafia-iv-day-4-7-16-heretics-and-traitor-win/81237/10866?u=alice

https://forum.imperium42.com/t/fm-ritual-mafia-iv-day-4-7-16-heretics-and-traitor-win/81237/10867?u=alice

https://forum.imperium42.com/t/fm-ritual-mafia-iv-day-4-7-16-heretics-and-traitor-win/81237/10868?u=alice

https://forum.imperium42.com/t/fm-ritual-mafia-iv-day-4-7-16-heretics-and-traitor-win/81237/10869?u=alice

https://forum.imperium42.com/t/fm-ritual-mafia-iv-day-4-7-16-heretics-and-traitor-win/81237/10870?u=alice

https://forum.imperium42.com/t/fm-ritual-mafia-iv-day-4-7-16-heretics-and-traitor-win/81237/10871?u=alice

https://forum.imperium42.com/t/fm-ritual-mafia-iv-day-4-7-16-heretics-and-traitor-win/81237/10872?u=alice

https://forum.imperium42.com/t/fm-ritual-mafia-iv-day-4-7-16-heretics-and-traitor-win/81237/10873?u=alice

https://forum.imperium42.com/t/fm-ritual-mafia-iv-day-4-7-16-heretics-and-traitor-win/81237/10874?u=alice

https://forum.imperium42.com/t/fm-ritual-mafia-iv-day-4-7-16-heretics-and-traitor-win/81237/10875?u=alice

This was literally just twenty posts of Wazza/Marshal/Katze talking about sleeping, hand warmers, and cats and in general and it just pads the thread, makes it more unreadable, and demotivates villagers from re-reading as everything in those excerpts were off-topic time-wasters. This was only one short incident of this as there was plenty of off-topic discussion in the thread.

If youā€™re town and youā€™re creating conversations that are over a hundred posts long that have nothing to do with the game, then youā€™re harming your own team by pointlessly making the game harder to read. Plain and simple


B) Quit talking about mechanics unless itā€™s strongly AI. Like, when I cleared the doc over mechanics in NUF it took less than 10 posts. I faked a track on the dude after rolecopping him as doc, he claimed he healed Hippo because he was his strongest TR, so the story fits in where heā€™d only be a W if Hippo, who I was TRā€™ing at the time, were W.

Repeatedly talking about claims without going anywhere with it such as repeatedly bringing up a playerā€™s roleblocker claim without bothering to asses if they are a V or W roleblocker is futile and just further pads the thread. This is especially bad on this site as when people begin talking about mechanics all talk regarding reads simply just stops. Just see any FoL, the moment a single player claims everyone just shuts down regarding reads. As a wolf I love it when this happens as mech-talk is stupid easy to fake while reads thereā€™s a higher sense of urgency being that it requires me to make harsher decisions. As town? Yeah, no.


C) Cut with speculation. If you donā€™t have evidence for your theories then donā€™t bother posting them in the thread. Like, this was especially bad with Braixen in RM4 being that he kept spitballing random wolfteams without any thought at all or in FoLs convert hunting early d2 in general.

If you canā€™t back up your theories with evidence then itā€™s probably wrong and you shouldnā€™t really be spamming the thread with it.

Iā€™d say this goes into flavor talk as well. Guessing the flavor of the wolfteam isnā€™t going to do anything regarding sorting out whoā€™s a wolf and whoā€™s a villager.


D) Unless you have a clear idea of what youā€™re planning to do with an RT, then donā€™t do it. In other words, donā€™t FPS just for the sake of FPSā€™ing. I see way too many games where there are hundreds of posts where a player fakeclaims and then later rescinds and then doesnā€™t even bother to assess their targetā€™s reaction by claiming it can come from either alignment. Stop hogging the thread unless you know your RT is going to be productive.

Additionally, stop pussy-footing around when people question you regarding your FPS. If you keep retracting, then rescinding the retraction, and so on it just causes confusion and steers the thread off-track. Like, in FE Derps should have just outed his n0 if Ob was in danger. Him claiming the n0, then never giving a straight answer on it was just a dumb distraction that clogged the thread without giving much information at all.

Also FFS stop RTā€™ing players you TR or who are mechanically cleared. Itā€™s literally why I told light to shut it in FE because reading a player who is mech-cleared is stupid being that heā€™s mechanically a villager due to Derps and itā€™d just be a waste of time to try to read him.

In short, if you want to RT, then you better make conclusions regarding their reaction otherwise the only thing that youā€™re doing is causing confusion and padding the thread.

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People think Iā€™m a kill joy for taking the game too seriously. This is why.

Whatā€™s RT

Reaction test.

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Reaction test.

Basically stop faking red checks on people for no reason as from experience here people donā€™t bother to make any conclusion regarding the targetā€™s reaction and it just degenerates the thread into speculating if the check is false or not.

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Counterpoint

The wolves are usually in the bottom posters

to be fair

the game ending D3 is a bit misleading, since day phases were significantly longer than a traditional FM game since there were ritual and lynch phase

im not saying youā€™re wrong (because youā€™re not) since the game still only lasted ~11 days with ~14k posts upon the game ending

which is still a bit absurd when i put it like that

huh

im gonna try to force myself to mention the cookie thread/discord if i notice this happening again

no promises ill remember this because my memory is bad but this is an issue with a not very difficult solution, and im probably one of the worst offenders

hides

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Granted I havenā€™t played any non-canned large games here since VCFM when Fk and I literally tried to drown out the thread

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So if youā€™re only talking about newer than that maybe

But in general I donā€™t think itā€™s that easy

Just open any game here Orange

eh

a majority of FM games lately are at 10k+ posts

i think the whole ā€œpeople have more time because of covidā€ is a explanation for the average posting going up but thereā€™s some players who are definitely outliers myself

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But like

Normal games or big boiz

big boi games suck, too much players to read.

well RM4, like alice said, was a 16p with 14k* posts when the game ended

FoL27 is a 18p with more than that many posts

these arenā€™t huge games

okay yeah thatā€™s not really a big boi game

Not really that longer, IIRC it was a 24h Ritual and 48h Lynch.

It still is ridiculous that a 16p that ended on the third day had around 14k-15k posts. Games with twice this many people had a hard time breaking the 10k post mark.

Pretty much. I donā€™t want to be an ass about it, but when hyperposting is actually making the game harder to readā€¦ yeah.

Itā€™s quite simple really

VCFM had 29 players

VCFM had 14K posts

VCFM had the two top posters as scum purposefully trying to drown out the thread

That should give you an idea of what is too much

the fact that you only namedropped me once in a post saying ā€œhyperposting badā€ is probably you being too kind about it, tbh