Chloe fan club (but only FM related) (formerly initiative to improve townplay thread) 😹

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#1963

Possibly

#1964

That was drawn???

#1965

There is a way to not have this be a thing, I guarantee

#1966

If your game design is good, this statement should be more or less correct

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#1967

obviously if you adjust to it

#1968

I don’t know many games that are designed with “the players know each other and can get free info by meta” in mind

#1969

never said they were

#1970

Every single game which was designed for this forum, obviously.

#1971

lol

#1972

i like alt games, as ppl may expect

i placeboed myself into thinking meta was the only thing i could do reading wise for months and months and months

see, for some players, it does everything
for others, it’s complete garbage and just wastes dozens of hours

i dont want a strat that’s so unbelievably, sporadically varied in its effectiveness based on the player to be a thing
because as i learned the hard way by getting mis-exe’d over and over and over again by thinking that was the only thing i was capable of, it’s absolutely unusuable if it’s the only thing you have for everyone
meaning it’s just a cheap gimmick on those with obv metas

#1973

Pretty much, meta-reading is unviable as it requires you to have a lot of experience* with a player and even then it’s a crapshoot for most people who are capable of breaking their meta.

* By this I mean it requires several games of either alignment. The meta-reading that people do here is an even worse version of normal meta reading as people here make strong meta reads even if they’ve only experienced like one or two wolf-games with a person. You usually need a decent history to make accurate meta reads unless they’re substantiated by something else such as CRich’s tone

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#1974

never forget FK in RM2

#1975

Meta-reads work on the worst 5% of FM players so you can only really use them on 98% of players here.

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#1976

if you are town

vote

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#1977

Addendum:

Regardless of your alignment, play the game you signed up for.

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#1978

Let’s just ignore the fact scumteam could’ve lynched Prince with that amount of votes.

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#1979

So

I think at this point we have a pretty good idea of what we should be doing – like, most of the recent scum wins could have been averted by people actually following the Townplay Improvement Advice, the problem isn’t that people don’t realize that you should work with other villagers/reevaluate in LyLo/etc.

however, despite knowing what to do, people don’t seem to be … doing it

how do we fix this

#1980

I don’t think we can? Like the biggest problem I notice (and I’m guilty of this myself) is that many people don’t care enough about winning or losing to put in a large effort to win as town. They’re content to enjoy the game and lose

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#1981

what is fun

#1982

grand idea turbos with scum ICs

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