Ciconia FM - Game Over - Order of the Public Bath Wins

[astand]

Vote Count

Accused	Voters	Number
Wazza	WindwardAway, Arctic, Zerokito, min, Wazza	5/10
thepigeonnyc	Rue, Galena	2/10
Galena	sulit	1/10
Rue	Prophylaxis	1/10
clonedcheese	Marluxion	1/10
Marshal	clonedcheese	1/10
Not voting	Atlas, Hippolytus, Liattac, Luxy, Marshal, PokemonKidRyan, thepigeonnyc, Whysper	8

[Wazza]

@astand

|Wazza|WindwardAway, Arctic, Zerokito, min, Wazza|5/10

my post about Luxy’s vote really made me vote myself.

/vote Clonedcheese

[Atlas]

I mean, pigeon also voted himself for some reason

[Arctic]

@Galena

I feel kinda off about how Arctic agreed with Proph so quickly that Wazza is likely town. I know Arctic made some posts about Wazza earlier saying they were doing some towny things, but I feel like that turned into a town read very quickly/randomly, consider too all the reasons given from Arctic (I could be wrong here as I haven’t been reading everything) for Wazza to be a wolf. I just don’t understand why they flipped their read so quickly there in order to follow Proph

I didn’t flip my read, from the posts you quoted it’s clear I still thought they were mafia with some doubt or that my guy is telling me they might be town

[Arctic]

@Arctic

my guy is telling me they might be town

i meant gut but this also works

[Arctic]

I don’t disagree but I wish they would provide more of their own reads because it’s easy for wolves to ask questions and appear productive that way

[Arctic]

basically this

ok i need to stop spamposting

[Prophylaxis]

Back, gonna try and catch up for the next 30 minutes or so before falling asleep.

[Arctic]

@clonedcheese

exact wordings are one “helpful”, one “harmful or useless”, and one “will not receive anything”

So wind probably wasn’t poisoned from your role, I’m assuming she got nothing

[Prophylaxis]

I’m of two minds regarding clonedcheese.

My first instinct is that his excessive focus on his night actions feels townie, because I think town would be more apt to solve using their role moreso than not. My second instinct hates that all he’s talking about so far today is just mechanics, though.

(and that extends to the rest of the thread; we’re getting bogged down in talking about mechanics in a role madness, maybe-bastard game. Discussing mechanics all day is easy for wolves to part in and does very little to help solve, not to mention somewhat unreliable because of the nature of the setup)

I know this is a giant fence-sit, but my gut is slightly leaning villager for cloned based on how they entered the thread and tried to solve from the vantage point of their role? Not confident at all but I think his post 1144 would be pretty difficult to fake from a mafia pov.

@clonedcheese - Ignoring your role/mechanics at the moment, who do you think is a wolf?

[Arctic]

@Marshal

I think wazza is mafia and me/aelin are villagers being tied to her, I absolutely don’t like the “wazza/marshal/aelin” narrative, feels like a setup.

@Marshal

sorta think wolves are in Wazza/cheese/PKR/[galena/sulit] with [pigeon,luxy,rue] containing the rest

You’re saying you think this narrative is a setup but the people pushing that consist of a dead villager and wind who you don’t even think is a wolf. Is this a real thought?

[Arctic]

@Prophylaxis

My first instinct is that his excessive focus on his night actions feels townie, because I think town would be more apt to solve using their role moreso than not. My second instinct hates that all he’s talking about so far today is just mechanics, though.

Basically the same as D1, his posting was horrible and so were his pushes but the way he was talking about his role was villagery

[Prophylaxis]

What is cloned’s scum meta? Is he more apt to fixate on mechanics as town or scum? I know he was wolfing in… the game you basically solved up to xylo (Warrior Cats), but I think that was a vanilla game.

[Arctic]

I’m not really sure since I’ve mainly played vanilla games with him but I think he talks about mech a decent amount as either alignment? Not really sure, but it’s even less applicable when he’s talking about his own (complicated) role in a rolemadness game

[Arctic]

I don’t love to talk about mech but obviously if I had a role like that I’d be talking about it a decent amount

[Prophylaxis]

1192 is pretty townie coming from cloned.

Still think Wazza is town, and don’t think she topposts for most of Day 1 and continue to engage with others today about her alignment if she’s a wolf. Think what she’s been saying (what do you guys do when I flip town, and all of your solve is ruined because of it) is highly likely to come from a town mindset. Contrary to my predecessor, I’m fighting this lunch Today to the best of my ability. Her behavior really reminds me of the Ninja/Guns game but obviously on a much larger scale.

[Arctic]

Cloned is probably town, I’m fine leaving him alive for now

Wazza top posting is indicative of her being a wolf because she likes to take control of the thread as a wolf (see the recent botf game) and as town she’s more relaxed and in her own world (see meowntainado). Her persistence is NAI, look at Sfol67 where she was NK and she went down kicking and screaming despite being boxed in by mechanics.

[Arctic]

@Prophylaxis

Think what she’s been saying (what do you guys do when I flip town, and all of your solve is ruined because of it)

This is fakeable after Atlas was doing the same thing and townread for it

[Arctic]

If there’s only 5 wolves if that’s what Marshal meant then they must either have a shit ton of kp or there’s some sort of NK. if the latter is the case we are blasting wazza lol

[Prophylaxis]

It’s fakeable, yes (and Atlas really did do a good job of that in RWBY in their first wolf game) but I’m not sure if Wazza doing it makes her a wolf.

Again, I’d just like people to pivot off of on Wazza for say, the next 24 hours because my gut is telling me that wolves are using her presence in the thread to distract everyone else. If she’s a villager, then the wolves are going to continuously float her name as a mislunch candidate, and if she’s a wolf, she has 4-6 other buddies that IMO are flying under the radar.

Is BOTF actually mafia? Does anyone have meta on Wazza wolfing?