Ciconia FM - Game Over - Order of the Public Bath Wins

[Luxy]

I’m working with very little information here

[Arctic]

is there any chance you’ll be able to look at people in more depth this game because i have literally no way of determining your alignment from your play on day 2 and day 1 didn’t get me far either

[Luxy]

I’ve got some time, is there someone in particular you want me to have a look at?

[Arctic]

hippo/pkr/eli/whysper

basically poe

[Luxy]

What was Eli’s explanation for leaving the game btw

[Luxy]

I’ll have a look at Whysper/Hippo

[Marluxion]

Nothing which implies it was his role and not something else

He was just like “I’m back”

[Marluxion]

it was 24 players to start

[Luxy]

But it still has had 25 players overall, thus the setup was designed for 25 players

[Arctic]

when he voted wazza, wazza jokingly said that he just detonated the wagonbomb and eli quickly left the game to try and avoid it (not really sure why, if he actually detonated the wagonbomb it would have been processed before him leaving the game lol)

[Luxy]

That honestly seems like an Eli thought tho

[Marluxion]

slank cover for the rest of this day phase btw
going up to visit with familia when i wake up
i’m fine with both of these wagons, i think chain voting both gets us two wolves and leaves us in a decent spot

[Guillotina]

Not gonna lie, i have not seen a town vig janitoring a flip so i give you that.

[Luxy]

Quick look at Whysper’s Day 2/3:

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Out of all the reactions to the night 1 deaths, this one definitely feels very faked/forced. Definitely feels like Whysper felt the need to say something about the deaths, but it doesn’t seem to be surprise at all.

@Whysper

I’m really sad that Vulgard died We’re never going to get to play a game together again for long

Also Chloe She’s pleasant to have around.

@Whysper

Anyway, I couldn’t think of a specific message to send anyone. I supposed that I should just confirm my ability with someone. Then I noticed again that I could include an image, so I thought of the Paint Mafia game. And I had a small hope that with it being a bastard game that somehow my image would be interpreted and used. Especially since the description of my character makes her sound like a powerful psychic.

This feels like a vaguely towny thought. Essentially, Whysper is claiming fruit vendor who can send pictures, and a player like Whysper who isn’t very experienced with FM as far as I am aware would have trouble coming up with something to do with a fruit vendor-esque role.

@Whysper

Well, I didn’t really believe my role would be that powerful. But I thought I might as well try something.

Towny thought as well.

@Whysper

Well, my role is pretty useless. And it gets pretty much outed once someone receives a message and mentions it in the thread.

Additionally, I don’t really see a wolf fruit vendor in this game that doesn’t do something else to its target, so unless shes like a rolecop then as far as I am aware no negative effects targeted Marshal N1.

@Whysper

Hmm, okay. I suppose. Though again, it’s probably better to make me a target than others who have claimed with something better?

@Whysper

Well, wouldn’t it be strange then if I was chosen as the kill instead of the others who claimed?

Wazza picking Whysper to have a pointless argument with early day 2 doesn’t seem W/W tbh.

@Whysper

No, I just sent an image. I was just ever so hopeful that it might get interpreted like images were for the Paint Mafia game if I were to do something like that. But no such luck.

Towny Thought

@Whysper

Actually on that. There must be a no-nonsense wolf in charge. They took out a bunch of the town core so readily. They were even prepared to kill Chloe immediately at SoD. I mean, I suppose those were good kills. Vul was a cop and Chloe was his N0. But I’m surprised they didn’t leave Alice around and let people suspect her.

I don’t know how I feel about this post tbh. This feels more like an effort to through shade onto more confident players just for wolves taking pretty obvious kills.

@Whysper

Oh, and before I forget, I still want to vote Wazza today. She was the CW to the V wagon yesterday and all the reasons for her wagon still apply.

/vote Wazza @astand

Votes Wazza day 2 without too much thought.

@Whysper

The main initial reason would be how she was taking early control of the thread and causing general chaos, which she’s well-known to do as wolf. Later she fake claimed to save herself, which isn’t towny in general. Then after yesterday, looking at how she was the CW to a V flip and her wagon having seemed mostly pure, I think there’s enough there to say she’s probably wolf.

Rather weak reasoning from Whysper, although the point of self-preservation is valid.

@Whysper

BTW, I was thinking. You know, given the push back I’m receiving about claiming, I’m starting to wonder about how Marshal approached even bringing up my night action.

I would think V!Marshal of all people would be more cautious about revealing something related to another person’s role if anti-claim is such a big deal. So why didn’t she just say something like “Whysper, I got something from you last night. Anything to say about it now? You don’t have to give details yet if you aren’t ready to claim.” But no, instead she told exactly the details of what she received and asked me to explain it, which basically requires me to reveal my role. That’s kind of wolfy.

Towny post, I don’t think Whysper/Marshal(Amelia) are w/w.

@Whysper

Luxy is questionable to me.

As far as I am aware I hadn’t even really posted at all this really seems to be out of the blue for Whysper.

@Whysper

Okay, I was going through Wazza’s posts and noticed this read list. The only 3 she put as SRs are all town. So that’s kind of odd if she was wolf. Usually a wolf would have at least one partner in there.

Weird pre-flippy read.

@Whysper

I also have a scum lean on Marshal based on the way she revealed my night action.

I didn’t like how things worked out with ClonedCheese and the drones. I think he might be intentionally picking bad targets and trying to play it off as just his paranoia or bad play or such.

There’s something about Zerokito that gives me wolf vibes, though I’m not sure yet. I might look at their posts next if I get time today. I do recall that they seemed eager to TR me just for the way I was explaining my night action earlier today. That feels like TMI.

Decent thinking.

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Honestly, despite there not being that much content. Whysper’s thought processes and reasoning seems genuine, although weak. This kind of thinking definitely feels like its just coming from a weaker town player. Obviously this is not clearing, but I don’t think she’s a wolf with Wazza/Marshal just due to the interactions that did occur. The way she treats her role definitely comes across as someone who is not too experienced with FM and I don’t really see a wolf role being this weak, unless there is something else we don’t know of.

I can definitely see this one flipping town and is just LHF.

[Luxy]

Like although Whysper’s reasoning and thinking is relatively low level, it feels more low level town than forced wolf reads. What shes saying seems to be what shes actually thinking, if that makes sense.

[Guillotina]

Bah looks like i have no choice but to retract my claim.

I retract my claim, im not a sensor.

Im a 3P Survivor, this role sucks, no wonder why my predecessor subbed out. You wolfside you get chopped, you townside you get night killed. Bah

[Luxy]

@Hippolytus

Oh yeah I wanted to hang nightingale lol

@Hippolytus

They were deffo vigged

I have information that this is just TMI btw

[Luxy]

Other than that, Hippo’s ISO is extremely lacklustre but honestly I can see it coming from both alignments for him.

I’m leaning scum on him for that TMI though and also I feel like he’s lowkey been wolfsiding for most of this game with his read on Rue and Waz tbh

[Luxy]

If Waz is wolf and Rue is town, I definitely stand by that

[Luxy]

Are you a jester?