Ciconia FM: Thread 1 - Day 1

[Arctic]

@Hippolytus

@Triplethree

This feels like a wolf with self awareness.

I knew someone would say this, this prolly mafia /vote triplethreat

i had the same thought here in that people jumping on this were wolfy bc it was obviously a joke post

@Hippolytus

@Triplethree

Something can be a joke and still be indicative of self-awareness.

actually this is a p good take tbh i retract

don’t think he’d back off the push here as a wolf tbh he’d probably just stick on it so he didn’t look uncertain

@Hippolytus

that reminds me of my haiku

Alone. Lost from my pack.
Howling. Alone. Alone. Yeet.
si soy un wolfo perdido

don’t think he makes this post as a wolf after he was correctly wolfread for doing it as a wolf in FAM but he is pretty ballsy so low confidence

@Hippolytus

Nah p sure wazzas town

@Hippolytus

That’s why I townread waz cuz beefing min for like 400 posts does nothing to help wazzas place in game

feels natural
it’s easier for wolves to pick apart individual posts and make microreads but hippo questioning what reason wazza would have to do this as a wolf is more indicative of a villager mindset rather than a wolf trying to pick out towny things

[Arctic]

Had the same thought tbh

[Marshal]

welp i gtg anyways may catch up or say hi from mobile ping me if anythings important

[Arctic]

@Marshal something is important

[Nightingale]

nothing really matters
anyone can see

[YunoGasai]

@Rue

I take issue with Night’s handling of my question to her, but I’m not sure how much of it is concern over not wanting to overly “friendcircle”, as it were.

Meh, this was the only post from Mist that I liked, tbfh.

[Nightingale]

i feel super dizzy still
nya

[YunoGasai]

I liked Rokon earlier as their shitposting and copypasta spam was fairly relaxed and felt villagery, but the way they responded to Vulgard putting the pressure on them feels odd and completely unlike to how they responded to my pressure in Dragonvale, tbfh.

[Luxy]

That is literally a toneread

[Luxy]

@Arctic

this is quite uncharacteristic for luxy, normally he has a lot of solid takes at the start of most games

I was busy and didn’t have time to read

[YunoGasai]

Where’s the toneread?

[Luxy]

@Arctic

useless questions which achieve nothing

Gave me a townread on Wind

I hadn’t read what he’d done so I was trying to read him independent of the openwolfing

[Luxy]

The anger he displayed felt like it came from a wolf???

[Luxy]

@Arctic

The first post doesn’t really follow with the second? like how is the second even wolfy? a villager can perceive the reasons they’re being wolfread for as bad. in fact, they’re more likely to than wolves because they know every wolfread on them is incorrect so they’d be biased into thinking the reasoning is bad. saying these posts don’t feel like they come from town doesn’t feel like a genuine thought

I’m saying it felt like a wolf angry at being wolfread for incorrect reasons

[Luxy]

@Arctic

The other part of luxy’s posting is primarily reactionary which is what i was being correctly wolfread for in meowtainado. a lot of his posting are comments that he agrees with other peoples’ takes which by itself isn’t inherently wolfy but from how underwhelming this Iso is i get the impression it’s being substituted in place of independent content

Fair. I didnt have time to do much else than what was in thread at the time

[YunoGasai]

What’s the difference between a villa being angry over being wolfread versus a wolf being angry over being wolfread for wrong reasons?

[Luxy]

Their tone

[WindwardAway]

@Marshal

Marshal
Alkaloe
Eli
Min
Arctic
Vulgard
Windy

This is my rough v core. Less names than i’d like but I feel solid on these and I dont want to stretch it to add a few more

I actually like how this is looking and I think I’m in agreement with you now. Reasons given for adding Vulgard, Arctic and Min all add up pretty well.

@Arctic

tbh i don’t even think wazza is like lock they’re just in wolf meta

that’s roughly where I am on her, too.

@YunoGasai

I think WWA was also TR’ing Galena for how she handled Ici’s slot?

yeah, after Vulgard pointed it out, but my original point was that I was TRing Galena due to how she handled my slot, which was nearly identical to the flip in read she had on Ici. It didn’t look like she was conscious about it or worried whatsoever how it came across, because when I questioned her she thought it was weird that I was contesting a townread on myself, but I think her logic tracked fine.

@Marshal

I thought this was a good post but the rest of the marl iso is kinda lacking, im very fine with him being GM though espec if there are mech reasons because iirc he mentioned his role being negative utility

I don’t remember him claiming that but I also don’t mind keeping my GM vote on him and seeing what happens. He seems fairly villagery although I’d like to see a bit more from him first, but he’s somewhere in townlean for me rn.

@YunoGasai

Does anyone have any reason to TR Hippo? Only thing I TR’d him for was a villagery back-peddle on TT and afterwards his posts have been weak af.

I saw like one? villagery post from Hippo and the rest were pretty null so he’s not getting much towncred yet for it.

@Arctic

@Luxy

But why

What did you gain from it

@Luxy

Do you believe you’ve done more harm or more good from this?

useless questions which achieve nothing

eh, he got a response from me, and then called it kinda towny, and then I don’t think it went anywhere after that. I didn’t really know what to make of it.

@Marshal

Atlas
Hippo
Ici
Luxy
PKR
Rue
Shurian
Pigeon
Wazza
Zerokito

This is my rough list of people I see no reason to townread.

This should be roughly 50% wolves

I see some reason to townlean one or two of them but not enough to core them. I guess I’m fine with this list, or at least fine with them being outside the towncore.

@Arctic

Way he was treating wazza kinda looked real by questioning motivations for wazza’s actions.
didn’t look like agenda or bad faith at all really

Yeah, that was included in the post I thought was kinda towny from him. Idk, he’s still kind of null-ish but maybe nulltown. I think there are wolfier players out there, although I’m not sold on Hippo being town just yet.

@Arctic

@Hippolytus

That’s why I townread waz cuz beefing min for like 400 posts does nothing to help wazzas place in game

feels natural
it’s easier for wolves to pick apart individual posts and make microreads but hippo questioning what reason wazza would have to do this as a wolf is more indicative of a villager mindset rather than a wolf trying to pick out towny things

That was the post that caught my attention and which I thought was >rand v.

[thepigeonnyc]

So Wazza is W?
/vote Wazza

[YunoGasai]

…clarify?