Ciconia FM: Thread 1 - Day 1

this post unfortunately reminds me more of your villagegame than wolfgame

mmh

wait actually that was a good number of us, how many wolves are there

wazza is probably wolfing and is trying to level in the hopes of baiting people into reading her v for actively playing in a way that she knows every FM player dislikes
i donā€™t think itā€™s working

/vote Wazza @astand

the answer to this is above

*she

it just sounds like marshal in a mash as far as iā€™m concerned

A quick note about WW theory and how I will play this game. Note that the arguments and facts presented here are indisputable, and that I will not engage in arguments about them, because those arguments are you wasting everyone elseā€™s time about meta that is well and comprehensively established. Go make reads so we can read you.

Iā€™ve reflected on my role and realized that there is a GTO play for me in this game, and therefore I am compelled to pursue it. I am going to brute force my clearness immediately upon the opening of the thread.

I am hard-claiming, and I will never be rescinding. I am Jestress, Ninth Prime Chivalric Order Trap Gun Inventor and Location Bomber. When it becomes prudent I will provide my teammates.

Benefits:

  1. I will survive today: I do not believe the villagers are able to kill me tonight, because it is so objectively unlikely that I would ever do this as a wolf. I believe that this decision reduces the importance of the wolf cover to be provided by all of you to the point of it being negligible. The villagers have already been outplayed, as it were.

  2. Iā€™m lock wolf: All of you already know Iā€™m lock wolf, because it is so objectively unlikely that I would do this as a villager. You know this for at least two reasons. First, this is the easiest, lowest-stress, lowest-demand game to villager in that Iā€™ve ever played in (except for turbos). I have no need to complicate my life, as a villager, by open-wolfing on thread open, when all Ihave to do is provide like a C-level village game to probably win. This is the rare instance where you literally [i]know[i] that I have a billion other options as a villager, AND that I would pursue probably ALL of them before pursuing this. Second, I engage in FPS exceedingly rarely, which necessarily means that I know that this will look WEIRD and SHOCKING to you. There is no merit to a village play that instantly generates WEIRD and SHOCKED responses that I would be obligated to finesse and manage for the remainder of the game. As a wolf, which I am, the burden is totally on you to not **** up and nightkill me. Makes my life super awesome.

  3. There are only 23 players you need to try to read, rather than 24: I have already provided a ā€œfreeā€ peek of me in a game with a mere 253 players. Our win equity is dramatically improved by my being entirely off the table for the entire game.

Conclusion:

The burden of sound reasoning is now entirely upon you. I am the wolf location bomber, and thus a wolf, and thus lock wolf. The game is immediately simpler than it would otherwise have been, because of my decision. Now, let us enjoy that benefit and win the game.

Also, to preempt a lengthy and pointless discussion.

It is NOT dumb to ponder this post and convince yourself of its wisdom. That is your obligation as a villager, and I encourage you to think it over for as long as it takes to quell your (initially valid but ultimately unnecessary) concerns.

It IS dumb to, AFTER doing that pondering, conclude that Iā€™m ā€œneutralā€ or ā€œtowny.ā€ That is legitimately stupid, and I wonā€™t entertain it. ONE of the reasons it is a stupid conclusion is that the upside of this play as a villager is absolutely DWARFED by the upside of this play as a wolf. There is no equivalency between the EV gain for villager-me in this position and wolf-me in this position. Theyā€™re universes apart. That means I wouldnā€™t DO the poorer option of the two (by extension, villager-me also wouldnā€™t BELIEVE that I could convince the entire game of the truth of these assertions for the entire game, which as an end-game villager I would have to believe if this strategem were to be worth pursuing). A SECOND reason that conclusion is stupid is that the EV bonus of oding this as a villager is COMPLETELY DWARFED by me baseline village EV anyway. Anything that complicates my villaging life is RIDICULOUSLY stupid for me to do, given that my villaging life is ALREADY one of the smoothest, highest expectation wolfing lives in WW history anyway. A THIRD reason that conclusion is stupid is that you would probably have to worry about being EXPLOITED by this gambit in order to get there. However, I have EVERY GAME engaged in this, or any similar, gambit in my entire career, meaning that if there IS exploitation to be had with this play, it is in THIS GAME, and every past game as well. For these reasons, pressuring me is extremely villagery and should not be engaged in by any wolf, ever, in this game. There will be no less productive pursuit than that in this game.

Sucks for the villagers when meta is wielded this brutally, but my allegiance is plain and my strategy perfect. Get #rekt

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this legitimately is anti town

but ok

Their posts are the most forced thing Iā€™ve ever seen

why

Wazza insisting on talking about mech stuff despite everyone disliking it is rand<v.

ā€¦this vote kinda feels opportunistic, tbfh.

And I play anti-town, this is well established by now that I do not play how people want me too.

Vote Count

Accused Voters Number
WindwardAway Alkali, min 2/13
min sulit, Wazza 2/13
Wazza YunoGasai, Icibalus 2/13
Marshal Liattac 1/13
Alkali Triplethree 1/13
Galena Nightingale 1/13
Not voting Aelin, Atlas, clonedcheese, EliThePsycho, Galena, Hippolytus, Luxy, Marluxion, Marshal, PokemonKidRyan, Rue, Shurian, thepigeonnyc, Vulgard, Zerokito, WindwardAway 16

I am a mech dude, this is well known.
I never said itā€™s always perfect.
I didnā€™t know Astand games fuckery, this game is a new one.

/vote Icibalus

Mech matters more than your shitty heavy chance of being incorrect reads. Thatā€™s pretty simple by now.

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ima stay on wind right now

I donā€™t like wazzas hesitantce to stop talking about mech (or her insulting me for it) but wind is not at all someone I want to take my vote off of right now

suit yourself

like ā€œoh look at me iā€™m playing in a way that is simmilar but not identical to how i played in the previous games, i loooove mechanics so much and i actively refuse to read peopleā€ is such a caricature of a villager who tends to antagonise other villagers and makes people just read them off WIFOM

You kept defending W!Wazza in the first game over mech fuckery.

Mech is not that reliable in Astand games.

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