Ciconia FM: Thread 1 - Day 1

Yeah… it kinda has hints of “Oh, Wazza’s an imploding villager so better stay off-wagon so the fallout doesn’t hit me” which is what I’ve seen of his wolfgame irt wolfy villagers.

@Nightingale

her*

fuck, sorry.

I haven’t read Vulgard properly but I’d prefer to vote him over Wazza here if I have to because I think Wazza is town

Vulgard’s read on me was bad and hedgy tho

I think Atlas is still a good lunch today

in FAM vulgard was just a bunch of takes lthat i thought “oh this is wolfy this is wolfy and that over there is wolfy too” while i was ignoring the villagery stuff

right here vulgard’s progressions are like

tumbleweed

admittedly this is totally due a reread since im working just off memory

Vulgard’s reads to me feel weak

like how Ici described them and I described them previously in my ISO.

And Wazza?

your entire shtick this game has been riddled with gimmicks; you should be conscious of this, the way you used your puppet is transparently gimmicky. but that’s fine, I’m cool with using puppets in a gimmicky way, I’ve done that before.

but take the Wazza push. it’s not that it’s not reasonably complex or nuanced, because no matter what your pushes are complex. it’s just, instead of pinpointing a fundamental flaw in Wazza (I would personally point to the big issue being not the GM issue but rather the complete self-awareness of how antagonistic she’s being and the complete lack of any even slight effort to cease being combative with a group of people she supposedly believes to be mostly fellow villagers) you instead point to the kitsch trappings of that; you’re acting like the GM thing is the fundamental reason why Wazza can’t be v instead of merely the most obvious symptom of the problem

and that troubles me, because it’s gimmicky. it’s like instead of what I’d consider your usual move, to isolate some fundamental deficiency in how somebody is playing and utterly tear into it, you’re instead going after things which are still significant and then driving them into a case. that’s how I read people, sure. but I don’t think that’s how you do it.

i dont believe in this authoritarian regime of “me being expected to present my reads”
i call for a REVOLUTION to bring us back to the ROOTS of FoL townplay

@Nightingale

What changed?

vulgard is v guyd

can elaborate later but

Why are you and Windward just acting intentionally wolfy this game, like no matter your alignments

uhhhhh nothing?

visible confusion

what have i done thats wolfy

you’re literally doing the generic wolfy pop-in for no reason?

you’ve done it 3 fucking times now, Arctic

my reason is someone who i think is a villager is being pushed

If you thought that Vul was pushing a ML wagon then why were you find with Wazza being a lead wagon?