Ciconia FM: Thread 1 - Day 1

[EliThePsycho]

marl claims neighborizer D1 count: 2

[Wazza]

it’s from the Grand Master thing so it’s fine

[EliThePsycho]

oh lol

[Marluxion]

no thats just the grandmaster thingy

[Marluxion]

my actual role is hell on earth

[Wazza]

Marl how many people can you neighbourize?
Better yet, how long does the neighbourhood last and most of all, is it just a nightchat for one night or does it last until afterwards?

[Arctic]

is it bad that i think all the strong players this game are v

[Zerokito]

@Vulgard

/vote Wazza

This is a wolf both tonally and behaviorally. I don’t need to read beyond 10 of her posts to say that.

She has an agenda in this game from the start, that being “establish myself as a strong presence.” And no, you can’t argue “she’s just trying harder,” because if she were trying harder, it would manifest differently. Her posts feel more like putting the thread in a chokehold than anything else.

Vulgard’s second post. Not sure I like the explanation for the vote, but I can sort of understand why he’d make it. Still feels off though somehow in a way that I can’t really explain, so woldflean.

@Vulgard

Yuno is also town for spending her entire time in the thread with me correctly attempting to shut this down.

Huh? He townreads Yuno just for that? Even if he was right in Wazza being a wolf, trying to shut Wazza down doesn’t make you a villager. This honestly feels TMIish on Yuno’s alignment.

@Vulgard

I’m not yet going to say Ici is town for this, but if she has indeed been on the “Wazza is a wolf” train, and if Wazza does indeed flip wolf, then Ici is >rand villager.

Because this is a preflip, don’t go back to this if flip(s) don’t “agree” with me.

Another TMIish statement. I feel that a villager wouldn’t be so quick to give out v reads here.

@Vulgard

@YunoGasai

…this actually feels stupidly shallow from you.

I think it would be >rand W for you to let your partner do this unimpeded, but not letting them do that is a good look unless there’s already a strong thread sentiment against Wazza when you start pushing back against her.

If that was the case, then I retract the read, but with so many posts I haven’t read, I couldn’t tell you.

At least he explains himself a bit here. Slightly villagery taste to this.

@Vulgard

@Triplethree

I think their play shows enough emotion and stubborness in their way of playing that I do not think they’re a wolf.

That’s exactly why she’s a wolf. She overplays that as a wolf.

Or she’s 3p, but that’s beside the point.

Another explanation I can potentially see coming from a villager.

@Vulgard

@WindwardAway

If so many people think I’m wolfy, why are only two people voting me?

Is Wind also a wolf for this comment?

Now he gives out his second W read. Kind of wolfy behavior if you ask me.

@Vulgard

@Liattac

Vulgard ( NK ) - I think Vulgard has a very high chance of being NK from how his analysis looks very showy and performative but doesn’t seem to be accurate at all so scum doesn’t attack him at night and end his game. He’s also not pushing anyone and is like that person who doesn’t really interact with anyone at a party so he’s making a fake solve with no belief. I think we should kill him today so we get less kills tonight.

Cattail’s a villager unless this entire post is copypasted from somewhere with changed names. This is too WTF to come from a wolf. It reads more like it follows genuine internal logic and not something invented. Too many steps, too many hoops, and the perspective in this take (and other takes in that post - read it!) - it is all too much and a wolf simply would not bother, not even if they were tryharding.

I can follow Vulgard’s thought process here although I don’t think it’s AI. I also have to admit that Cattail has a point there.

@Vulgard

Also, people who are already convinced I’m a wolf should think again. I’m misread all the time as a villager, every game.

Obviously, that doesn’t mean I can’t be mafia, but there’s a ~75% chance you’re wasting your time chasing me around during early day 1.

This honestly feels like a very AtEy and wolfy post to me.

Yeah, Vulgard is likely a wolf.

[Alkali]

im fine w/ being neighborized
have a lot to re-read overnight regardless
and i guess theres some potential i could die but Who Knows

i’ll leave it up to the hero

back to reads i go

[EliThePsycho]

i am once again going to ISO somebody

[Wazza]

if I’m neighbourized, I’m probably not even gonna try and convince Marl of reads, just tell him my role, my action and just peace out so probably not the best choice :^)

[Arctic]

@Zerokito

@Vulgard

Yuno is also town for spending her entire time in the thread with me correctly attempting to shut this down.

Huh? He townreads Yuno just for that? Even if he was right in Wazza being a wolf, trying to shut Wazza down doesn’t make you a villager. This honestly feels TMIish on Yuno’s alignment.

@Vulgard

I’m not yet going to say Ici is town for this, but if she has indeed been on the “Wazza is a wolf” train, and if Wazza does indeed flip wolf, then Ici is >rand villager.

Because this is a preflip, don’t go back to this if flip(s) don’t “agree” with me.

Another TMIish statement. I feel that a villager wouldn’t be so quick to give out v reads here.

i like these takes from leafia

@Zerokito

@Vulgard

Also, people who are already convinced I’m a wolf should think again. I’m misread all the time as a villager, every game.

Obviously, that doesn’t mean I can’t be mafia, but there’s a ~75% chance you’re wasting your time chasing me around during early day 1.

This honestly feels like a very AtEy and wolfy post to me.

tbh he does do this all the time as a villager tho
i think complaining about being misread is actually >rand v for him, especially when it’s sassy like this

[Nightingale]

i have a normal sleep schedule but i still feel super tired all day anyways

[Zerokito]

@Marshal

Alice is still confidently saying I am mafia because of this even when I have made it extremely explicit and extremely clear that I was not looking for a claim and was exclusivlely looking for a time frame on the self-resolve.

Giving this wouldn’t be possible without her claim according to her. Now drop it.

[Marshal]

@YunoGasai

I genuinely stuggle to understand
Im going to try to put what you said behind me and just try to figure out your mindset

Why would I, as town, not want a timeframe on self-resolving roles. I have over and over again been burned by “self-resolving” claims. Getting a timeframe for when is very helpful for town to know so that you’re not allowed to wiggle out of it later as wolf.

How am I supposed to “know better”. If you were, hypothetically, wolf, how is my action “anti-town” in any way. It’s locking you into something so you can’t wiggle out of it later.

So why is it wolfy to force someone to hardclaim when they will have resolved. Wolves can do very little with that info (at most it helps decide nightkills) but it gives village a hard timeframe for when you are either self-resolved our outted which is super useful to help town sort your slot.

So what’s wolfy?

[YunoGasai]

@Zerokito

I can follow Vulgard’s thought process here although I don’t think it’s AI. I also have to admit that Cattail has a point there.

Err… I’m p sure that Vulgard’s post there was a joke.

[Marluxion]

two people per day

[Wazza]

Alright.

I’d like to suggest myself and Alice.

[Marshal]

I specifically don’t want to be neighborized, stating this for the record @Marluxion

[Marluxion]

i kinda want both of you dead though