I also want to go back and look at gamestart because I think min said something about it being a complete mess and that might be fruitful in finding some wolves
I asked Wazza specifically why she thought that, after i also explicitly said I was not a vengeful and nothing would happen if i were wagoned or vigged, and she said the way i was playing sounded like i was encouraging people to wagon me so she would rather have someone shoot me instead.
it was just very weird because i have absolutely baited people into wagoning me before as town, and what happened last time is that only villagers hopped on my wagon and the wolves all stalled and came up with excuses that i was TWTBAW or some shit.
so wazzaās reaction fit in perfectly with that kind of reaction, which is exactly why i was baiting for so long and driving everyone crazy with my openwolfing. villagers are likely to get frustrated and snapvote me, but wolves are more cautious because they know iām not a wolf. does that make sense?
as for Atlas idk why the heck he thought iād be a jester, probably same reason but idk why specifically jester came to mind instead of assuming 1. i could bait as town or 2. i could bait as wolf
note that wazza did not specifically say whether she thought i was a vengeful town or wolf role, but she was strongly scumreading me so i would have assumed she thought i was a vengeful wolf.
the incongruency appears again when she keeps telling me, if iām town, to cut out the openwolfing because itās destroying the thread and making it impossible to read me, and yet she still insists that i must be a wolf and that i also shouldnāt be wagoned.
itās a very oddly specific read and something doesnāt match up.
the more i think about this, the more i think i should just hop back on the wazza wagon unless she cares to explain.
Tbf you can say to someone to stop doing x if youāre a villager while also wolfreading them
also this is specifically why i asked much earlier in the day, why so many people were wolfreading me but only chloe and min were voting me, and i thought both were villagers. i think i got accused of TMI for saying that, but again it has to do with wagonomics and the fact that wolves are way more conscious of voting, and also that i am always scumread at the beginning of every game but somehow never really a viable wagon when iām town.
Also as for cloned he looks kinda bad and the only good thing going for him is his claim and the way he acted around that, but it doesnāt outweigh the rest of his bad Iso so letās just hope his claim is resolving in some way otherwise Iām pretty happy blasting him soon
yeah, i know, but if wazza thought i was vengeful i feel like somethingās missing from the equation
if she thought there was a chance i was vengeful town trying to bait wolves, wouldnāt she just let the wagon happen without voting on it herself?
if he doesnt come back and read the thread he is probably just going to attempt to kill me tonight as either alignment, and claim that he killed me because i was objectively wolfy and he didnāt read the latter half of the day
i think as a wolf he could have drones as well and since itās so obvious when he deploys them, it looks better for him to soft his role and then publicly claim them so itās less likely the drones get interpreted as a wolf role.
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I guess but she can still say this as a villager to someone they think is a wolf, like i always say to people i wolfread to stop doing x if theyāre a villager without thinking too much about the mech
i understand heās baiting for wolves to claimvig him, but i see a couple problems with this:
- as i said, itās better for him as a wolf to openly claim the drones so he gets townread for it and people donāt block the drone actions
- if he is baiting a claimvig it would imply that he has some sort of protection or vengeful ability, which means he probably has more than one ability if he says the drones can kill
- the drones might all do different things, meaning heād be a joat, but in that case he would not want to die
if i go into setup gaming i will say that astand probably gave the wolves more than one ability and cloned could be a wolf purely for that reason lol
itās a really bad reason, though, but i remember how it was in umineko 2.
honestly iām less worried about that particular sentence from wazza and more worried about how hesitant she was to vote on my wagon
especially if sheās a wolf and is discouraging a wagon but encouraging an extra night kill from wolf kp so that they can pass it off as town kp
@clonedcheese if you kill wind tonight i will tunnel you tomorrow out of sheer policy
you will not survive the day
you kill the counterwagon or in PoE or you die
hf
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if wind gets shot again as obvtown im not letting the killer get away with it.
thatās the mistake i made in orangevitational, i had a correct wolfread on security and i knew as a wolf heād shoot like that but i dropped it because of the parity check.
not making that mistake again lol