Ciconia FM: Thread 1 - Day 1

[Liattac]

/vote Luxy

i chainsaw wazza

[Luxy]

I want to see Atlas’ response to my points on him as well

[Marshal]

It’s annoying me and I still have they acc blocked I’d prefer if you didn’t

[Arctic]

I’m tunneled on wazza now tbh

[Arctic]

There are so many things pointing to them

[YunoGasai]

@Wazza

/unvote
Unvoting for now, as Vulgard just said about my wagon, he’s also not a realistic wagon especially when people are townreading him. Also not placing my vote as I can do that when I’m awake

I disliked the bolded part the most, tbfh.

Usually I don’t give a shit when thread consensus clashes with my SR.

[Arctic]

I don’t think wazza would give a shit about thread consensus either

[YunoGasai]

/vote Wazza

[Liattac]

/vote Wazza

[WindwardAway]

Summary

@Wazza

I’m gonna say it now, myself and Vulgard are almost never V/V and if we are, I’m going to whack him with a newspaper post game.

So you vote either myself or him. I’d recommend him for, very obvious reasons.

@Wazza

I’ll stick to my horses for now since I want Vulgard to die asap.

@Wazza

Vulgard’s reads to me feel weak

like how Ici described them and I described them previously in my ISO.

@Wazza

Why are you and Windward just acting intentionally wolfy this game, like no matter your alignments

@Arctic

what have i done thats wolfy

@Wazza

you’re literally doing the generic wolfy pop-in for no reason?

@Wazza

you’ve done it 3 fucking times now, Arctic

@Arctic

my reason is someone who i think is a villager is being pushed

@Wazza

Yes

You’ve STATED THIS.

Yet you keep entering thread, refusing to explain it, and just repeating yourself.

@Luxy

Can we Lynch Atlas

@Wazza

Like I said, I’m fine to CFD to him, but I’m not doing it right now, I want Vulgard dead.

@Wazza

As wolf, Vulgard is more subsided with his pushes, he’ll push on them, but do it in such a way to avert the blame. He’s done it various times, a prime example being Nightless where he pushed on me, (his wolf partner), heavily but then when it came to any Town, he didn’t put in nearly as much effort.

@Wazza

I can grab game examples if you’d want, but they’d be pointless as you wouldn’t read them anyway. You only said “you don’t know” to convince me into telling you so you just have an excuse to not read.

@astand

Vote Count

Accused	Voters	Number
Wazza	Vulgard, Alkali, Galena, WindwardAway, thepigeonnyc	5/13
Nightingale	Liattac, YunoGasai, Hippolytus, Arctic	4/13
Vulgard	Marluxion, Wazza, Nightingale	3/13
Arctic	sulit, Rue, clonedcheese	3/13
Atlas	Marshal, Luxy	2/13
YunoGasai	EliThePsycho	1/13
Liattac	Zerokito	1/13
Not voting	Atlas, PokemonKidRyan, Shurian, Aelin, min, Icibalus	6

@Arctic

Give me examples where this matches this game

@Wazza

You know what, no. Find them yourself, this is a “team game” is it not?

Read the thread first, give me your thoughts on them, then I’ll do what you want me to do. Until then, no.

@Wazza

@Arctic

ur not doing ur job if ur v

u aren’t villagery and u aren’t convincing me of ur read lol

I don’t need to convince you. You aren’t someone I want to convince at that.

Convince yourself of whatever you want. It’s not my job to tell you about the read or save myself. If I die, I’m not the one who has to suffer from there on out with this shitshow of a game.

And you’re rich talking about “not doing ur job if ur v” Mr. Not read a single thing.

Do it yourself, I’m not bothering with you nor am I answering any of your questions until you give proof you’ve read the thread.

@WindwardAway

I did say recency bias was an issue right? I am doubtful Wazza is a hit after she’s posted and I read a bit

Off to dinner now

/unvote @astand

i don’t remember reading any of the posts i just quoted before unvoting, idk if they didn’t load for me or what

why the fuck did i unvote

@Luxy

I’m so close to vetoing the Wazza wagon

@Vulgard

@Wazza

btw when I die, kill Vulgard afterwards, idc if he’s Townie to the rest of you, you kill him.

And here I expected something better than straight OMGUS.

@Vulgard

Look, this entire time I haven’t removed the possibility of Wazza being V, but nothing she says makes any sense, especially when it comes to her treatment of my slot.

@Vulgard

She hasn’t made a single good argument why I’m mafia, and she’s also misrepresented the entire collective push on her as meta-based when meta is only a part of it.

@Wazza

I don’t like the fact that people are ignoring the fact that one of me and Vulgard should die today

@Vulgard

How do you put players on ignore again?

@Vulgard

This isn’t me being salty, I think that’ll make it easier for me to read the thread.

@Wazza

Nah, it’s not a thunderdome, like I said it’s a deathtunnel.

I’m almost positive that Vulgard is wolf, I know I can be wrong, but I heavily doubt it and I’m fine with dying afterwards if Vulgard flips Town and if I die, I expect Vulgard to be fine with the same.

@Arctic

@Nightingale

anyways im voting vulgard over wazza because it seems like a lot of people have reselvations over wazza anyways

i dont think wazza undrstands how weak my lean is

this post kinda rubbed me the wrong way

she doesn’t care to look at whether her townreads or scumreads have “reservations”
over wazza and it just feels like a copout
to not push wazza

more stuff about wazza vs vulgard and then

@Wazza

Okay so I decided to do a bit of re-evaluation

Yeah, still see no way how people think Vulgard is Town

still no change

@Wazza

I voted Marl

and a lot of people are doing the same

@Wazza

Hippo, I’m like
p sure Marl is Town, although I’m worried, I’d rather him get it tbh

(this is just on a side note, unrelated to the topic)

@Zerokito

Wazza having that many votes on him is a bit concerning I think. It makes me think he’s at least a bit more likely to be a villager thabn a wolf. Is anyone even trying to defend her?

ick

@Wazza

Vulgard - From the get go his push on me was atrocious and had no reason to push me considering he claimed to not read the thread, he continued this push and caused a death tunnel between us but when I entered the thread this death tunnel seems to have died down. He refused any sort of conflict or direct explanation on why I’m scum after the fact and doesn’t seem to even want to continue the push on me, coming from a person who is claiming to be almost definitely confident on me being scum, it’s strange to see him give such a minor push on me. According to others as well, he’s in his wolfmeta, despite wolfing with him various times, I can’t give a direct comment on why he’s in his wolfmeta and some can explain it a lot better than I can.

maybe worth rereading wazza’s entire readlist here btw

@Wazza

/vote Atlas

I’ll probably move back to Vulgard later

ok i finally found the explanation

can’t believe i read through the entire thread again instead of just isoing but i wanted context for it

[WindwardAway]

sorry i got too lazy to properly format it
wazza just jumped to atlas with basically nothing before it and said maybe she’d move back to vulgard later

[WindwardAway]

@Wazza

Atlas - Reading the thread back to when this happened, he felt very subsided about my push, as if he didn’t want to take a downfall by joining it.

compare this read on atlas

@Wazza

Vulgard - From the get go his push on me was atrocious and had no reason to push me considering he claimed to not read the thread, he continued this push and caused a death tunnel between us but when I entered the thread this death tunnel seems to have died down. He refused any sort of conflict or direct explanation on why I’m scum after the fact and doesn’t seem to even want to continue the push on me, coming from a person who is claiming to be almost definitely confident on me being scum, it’s strange to see him give such a minor push on me. According to others as well, he’s in his wolfmeta, despite wolfing with him various times, I can’t give a direct comment on why he’s in his wolfmeta and some can explain it a lot better than I can.

to this read on vulgard

and tell me why the case on atlas is more compelling than the case on vulgard, from wazza’s perspective.

it’s literally because the atlas wagon was more popular, isn’t it?

[YunoGasai]

Basically, yeah.

Looks more like self-preservation. I think there was a post where Wazza posted their wolfreads earlier on?

[WindwardAway]

wait how did i miss the unvote post, i literally only saw the atlas post
unless wazza re-voted and switched again, it was weird

[WindwardAway]

@Wazza

/vote Atlas

I’ll probably move back to Vulgard later

but like
lol

[YunoGasai]

@Wazza

They’ve barely changed but:

Atlas, Ici (looking better but unsure), Nightingale, Shurian (thread read), Vulgard

Players I can see being scum but aren’t actively scumreading: Mist, Eli, Hippo, Windward.

This post feels meh.

[WindwardAway]

/vote Wazza @astand

can yeet

[Arctic]

Have you noticed that after every wazza argument she ends up townreading the other person

It happened with min, then me and now eventually vulgard

[Arctic]

Idk who she even thinks is a wolf anymore

[WindwardAway]

she has me at a null for no apparent reason