[Class Suggestion] Noble and Aristocrat (Social)

Uhhh, what?

Sorry i messed up on what i was trying to go with there

bump :sleeping:

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It’d be great if the people that didn’t could tell me what to change to get them on board

One suggestion I would have is making pull rank instead give someone ELSE an extra vote. Noble twins on its own is almost never useful.

You can actually spam the ability and get up to 4 votes for Exe/Pardon

That’s pretty useful imo

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If you spam PP then you are getting them on the stand and with 3 people forced to abstain. My point being that if you can get someone on the stand this way then you can get them guilted. Making it give someone else a vote is also much more interesting.

The other thing I would like to say is that he NEEDS something other than vote manip. Unlike other core consepts vote manip is not fun to use on its own.

The reason for this btw is that vote manipulation only matters if you overturn majority unless it’s being used to prove yourself. That means he either needs something else to make it more meaningful (Information gathering ala current noble) or he needs more survivability. Since giving him defensively powers just means your sitting around for half the game anyways (still not fun) meaning you need to go with the other solution.

I see no need to replace Maid Spy. It sees whispers, but doesn’t make them completely unusable. Order is alright, but not nearly as good. Replacing Snoop seems fine, but I think Bureaucracy is too powerful. You can force basically any trial, short of a King’s Pardon. Might be better if you capped abilities per day to 2 or 3.

Your total ability usage is capped - if you force one trial, that’s all you can do for the whole game, pretty much.

Also, Maid Spy is in my Priest concept instead.

That’s basically one decide fate. That’s a king ability, and shouldn’t be in another claim.

If maid spy is still in the game, I don’t mind what other power Noble has.