[Class Suggestion]The Accomplice - Neutral Investigative

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#41

I may be willing to debate the wincon. But I am not going with a survival wincon. That would accomplish NONE of the goals I am trying to achieve with this class.

#42

Survival ones are boring though, so should we go down the line for win cons?

Survive to see the Blue Dragon fall.

Survive and end the game by Day 7.

Survive to see both major factions die. (BD & Scum)

Survive to ensure the Neutral Killer wins.

Make sure a Neutral Killer wins.

Survive and prevent any smart Neutrals from dying. (Does not include Fool)

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#43

Please check above post

#44

I got it!

#45

Read it now

#46

Thatā€™s really confusing in my opinion

#47

If everyone but the killers, converters and king die then you win.

#48

Every faction is guaranteed to have at least one of these so you can win with any faction. I am willing to change the class finder to a type finder with this change.

#49

I know, but the goal is really complicated for people who would be new to the game, so what if we simplified it?

#50

To what?

#51

Would this work?

Survive to see only leaders of each faction be alive.

Leaders:
Neutral Killer
Mastermind
Cult Leader
King
Prince

Even then, I still feel that a simple win con like
ā€œSurvive to see the Blue Dragon fallā€ is perfectly fine too.

Scorned, Fool, these are Neutral classes that are 95% of the time bad for the Blue Dragon. It wouldnā€™t be devestating for the Accomplice to be part of this group too in my opinion. And I suspect that the BD has the highest win rate currently.

#52

Not quite what I had in mind. Also 2 problems.

1: Neutrals are not leaders. Especially the non-NK ones

2: Thatā€™s far more arbitrary than what I had and thus harder to remember.

How do you determine if someone is a leader? Thatā€™s not a trait of the class itself. For example I consider the hunter a leader and yet itā€™s not on your list.

#53

I guess official leaders maybe?

#54

Leaders are not official.

In fact I am fairly sure that if they were then sheriff and pally are on that list too.

#55

Okay then I think that the current win con of surviving to see BD fall is perfectly fine then

#56

Although if it is to survive, then I think this would be more suitable instead of the Tricks of the Trade Passive.

Trickery: (D) (2)
Make yourself Night Immune tonight.

This way, itā€™s not a guaranteed Night Immunity once, but he can choose to be night immune twice. And thereā€™s more strategy, as the Accomplice can choose to either Snitch or use Trickery that night.

#57

Itā€™s not going to be to survive.

#58

I mean like, it has Survive in the win con, Just survive classes are lame

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#59

I guess weā€™ll have to agree to disagree here. I like Survive classes and think theyā€™re fun.

#60

Survival is an interesting goal, but only if there is a reason to kill them.

There is no good reason to kill an Alchemist, for example, so it is basically a BD aligned class.