[Class Suggestion] The Arsonist

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#21

Now this Arsonist is mostly (Cooldown on ignite is a nerf) a buffed ToS arsonist, but it still has it’s major flaw that makes it underpowered, and that flaw is his inability to kill fast enough, as I stated beforehand, especially in the lategame if you don’t have anyone doused. Once you get to the lategame, if you don’t any/very few people doused, it’s a game of luck whether you win or not with the odds stacking against you as time goes on. (Then again, this is almost every NK except Sorcerer, who mainly has trouble in the earlygame)

The Arsonist you’re proposing will especially have issues during this time, seeing as Ignite has a 2 day cooldown. If I was playing this Arsonist, keeping people doused as the nights go on and people die/get converted would be very troublesome. If you don’t ignite until the lategame, most of your doused targets will probably be dead and the day after you will probably be executed by the majority. However, if you ignite in the earlygame, you have to deal with Ignite’s 2 day cooldown, which will severely slow down your killing speed.

I’d be all for Arsonist if there was a simple solution to its very slow killing speed that would balance this class without completely reworking it.

#22

The cooldown is needed so he doesn’t just ignite every night lul.

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#23

I realize that, but if he could douse and ignite every night he’d just be an assassin. (With death/occ immunities)

#24

He would be an occupation immune and death immune Assassin using 2-for-1 every night, bypassing death immunity, healing and Knight’s defend.

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#25

Yeah which is why there’s a cooldown.
He shouldn’t be able to have a kill every night he should be killing in large amounts.

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#26

Let me find a example of a arso and why they need a cooldown.

#27

It wouldn’t be in his interest to kill 1 person per night anyway since Arsonist needs to be killing in large amounts. (At least in the earlygame)

#28

Yeah but if he did there needs to be a reason why he shouldn’t be able to do it.
which is why there is a cooldown.

#29

Would it be that bad if we let him ignite every night, since he couldn’t douse the same night anyway? That would be just one kill per night if he ignited every night. So I will edit OP to remove ignite cooldown.

#30

Tbh letting him ignite every night would actually LOWER his KPN. effectively lowering his win rate for bad players.

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#31

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this is like a nice arso.

#32

Which is why I edited OP to allow him to ignite every night :sunglasses:

#33

Instead of the cooldown you get court manipulation lul

#34

It’s weaker than Pyromaniac though, it reveals which NK it is to investigatives and also has a lower KPN.

#35

Doing that just lowered his winrate by 1-3 percents you know that lul

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#36

Yeah it’s not made for tol its made for FOL.

#37

Ohh okay

#38

It’s just is a nice arso because it doesn’t let you ignite every night.

You have to earn it :wink:

#39

I want instant gratification sometimes though

#40

Understandable it wasn’t made for turbo it was made for longer games.