[Class Suggestion]:The Balancer(Neutral Special)/The Imbalanced(Unseen Special)

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#21

I have a few possible abilities:
Night Ability 2:The Equalizer(1 use): Remove Royal Blood from someone silently.
or
**Day Ability 2:Knowledge of Imbalance(2 uses):**If the majority of those alive are Blue Dragon, or if the Cult/Unseen have equal or more members than the rest, then you will be notified of an imbalance. Your presence will be excluded in these determinations.

#22

so if there is more blue dragon or the cult/unseen have equal to blue dragon? in other words, there is always an imbalance?

#23

Hmm no you(the Balanced) are not included, but the rest of the Neutrals is.
7BD, 3 Neutrals(Mercenary, The King, Possessor), 3 Unseen(remember you are excluded from the calculations)
->There is an imbalance!
3 BD 3 Unseen(King Assassin Sage)
-> There is an imbalance!
4 Cult 2 BD 3 Neutrals(Neutral King, Possessor, Alchemist)
->There is no imbalance!
5 BD(including King) 3 Unseen(MM Assassin Soulcatcher) 2 Neutrals(Possessor, Reaper)
->There is no imbalance!

#24

so at the beginning of the game, there is an imbalance?

I canā€™t really imagine a use for this ability.

#25

It gives you infoā€¦
Examples:
1.MM dead. Assassin and some other Unseen alive. King alive.2 killers dead. 3 BD must be alive
3 BD 2 Unseen you(donā€™t count) and the King.
Now you suddenly get: Balance.
3 BD and 3 unseen including King do not give you Balance.
Nor do 4 BD including King and 2 Unseen
->King is Neutral, and its survival your last hope for a win.
And what if you get Imbalance? Well, it would be good for you to get rid of your enemy the King.

  1. Its the beginning.3 kills night 1, all on BD.
    3 people are dead, 13 remaining.
    1 of them is the Balanced
    12 remaining(for the calculation)
    2 are probably Neutral killers.(if the prince didnt miskill)
    2-4 are Unseen/Cult
    6-8 are Blue Dragon.
    Now you suddenly get a message that there is balance.
    That means: Unseen/cult convertedā€¦ and the King is evil or Neutral.
    @JammySplodge Iā€™ve talked with Rope quite a bit, but you had unspecified issues earlier. Did I repair these potential issues or did I worsen themā€¦ can you please help me a bit?
#26

I still think that this role would be a nice addition to TOL, especially now with the King being unlynchable for some days.

#27

sozā€¦

After 20 days.

#28

the problem is the balance keeper wouldnā€™t know what their goal is. If they did (if king is evil) they can just call him out on it.

King matters a lot in 8p games, but 16p? Not that much.

#29

Yeah thats one of the themes of the class rope. They donā€™t know their exact goal until the King dies. But if the King is Neutral, then they donā€™t want thatā€¦
You can use Knowledge of Balance to try to determine what the King could be. That is why I added it.

#30

Updated.

#31

Just have it tell you how meny people of each faction there are and have the king count.

#32

Wouldnā€™t that be too overpowered?
4 unseen-King evil
5 Cult-King evil
It also outs the number of neutrals, making any Alch claim totally believable or unbelievable.

#33

Trueā€¦ How about just saying which faction has majority? I find what you have now confusing.

#34

so.

Day Ability 2: Knowledge of Imbalance(2 uses):If a faction has at least 50% of all votes you will be notified of an imbalance. Your presence is excluded in these determinations.

into

Day Ability 2: Knowledge of Imbalance(2 uses):You will know which faction currently has more votes than any other faction.

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#35

Correct! Much easier to understand

#36

Done! Do you have any other suggestions?

#37

Bump.

#38

I have reworked the convert.

#39

How is this different from royal blood?

#40

It does not stay if you are promoted to the Assassin or converted into the Seeker.