[Class suggestion] The Coroner/The undertaker

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#1

Alignment : Blue dragon
Type: Investigative
credits: PolikShadwobliss for name

Test Blood (3 uses) (Used on dead player) gives a list of three names; two are entirely random (selected from player list), the other is the killer of the dead player (If the killer was the possessor, then the “killer” in this circumstance is whoever the possessor forced to kill them). Cannot be used on the same body twice.
Autopsy (infinite uses) (select dead player) Reveal the class who killed the player to yourself (not publicly, unlike exhume)

The coroner can only be in games if there is also a physician.

Converted class: The undertaker
Unseen support
Cremate (night, infinite uses) (select dead target) Player may not speak to priest or be revived, as though they were reaped; the player also cannot be exhumed; if a physician attempted to exhume them tonight, it will fail.
Bury (night, infinite uses) If target dies tonight, players will be unable to read their journal, and their class will only be revealed if they are exhumed by a physician.

Please leave a comment if either would be imbalanced (under powered or overpowered)

#2

Neutral support

Calls it Support - First ability gives an investigation result

Test Blood (night, infinite uses) (target a dead body) Provide yourself with three names of players alive in game, one of which is the killer. Cannot be done to the same body multiple times.

So you’re taking the Coven Psychic for a ride eh? “Get 3 names, at least one is evil” etc.

EDIT: Hang on wait, you’re targetting a dead body… and for some reason you’re given 3 names of people and one’s a killer? That doesn’t make any bloody sense.

Cremate (night, infinite uses) (target a dead body) Target cannot be revived by priest, nor can any live class speak with them (apostle, priest, etc.) and physician/herbalist cannot exhume them (even if they tried this night). Gain one use of hide.

Hey look, another variant of Reap! I don’t like this because it’s again, not Supportive. You’re not Supporting anyone by doing this and you’ve given it “Neutral Support”

Hide (day, 0 uses) Any attacks against you the following night will fail.

… @JammySplodge can have a crack at this, you make it too easy.

#3

Let me have some fun with this too Plex!!

#4

Investigative result for A NEUTRAL SUPPORT!!

NO. JUST NOO. IT ISN’'T!! IT AT BEST ITS A WILDCARD[quote=“RopeStringFace, post:1, topic:2147”]
Cremate (night, infinite uses) (target a dead body) Target cannot be revived by priest, nor can any live class speak with them (apostle, priest, etc.) and physician/herbalist cannot exhume them (even if they tried this night). Gain one use of hide
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This is an EXACT COPY OF REAP. NOT SUPPORTIVE.

…Not. Even. Going to do this…

#5

One of the names is the name of the killer of the body.[quote=“ThePlex, post:2, topic:2147”]
So you’re taking the Coven Psychic for a ride eh? “Get 3 names, at least one is evil” etc.
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I have never played ToS coven, Nor have I heard of this role.

Supporting the evil faction, or in the event of cult, supporting blue dragon against apostle.

Ir is not an exact copy, seeing as players cannot speak with them from beyond the dead. Is it similar? yes. Is it the same? No.

Constructive criticism, please.

#6

Very disrespectful. Seems the only reason you posted this was to make me feel bad. I am okay with constructive criticism; all this does is alienate players and increase the length of the thread.

#7

If you’re going to give him the ability to find a Killer class, then it’s not a Support.

Also, “Supporting the Evil faction” that isn’t how it works. Neutral Support - Can support anyone.

Look at Alchemist - “Neutral Support” - Heal + 2 Kills - Can be used with anybody

Look at Mercenary - “Neutral Support” - Contracted to a random target ingame - Can be anyone, and can also recontract Anyone if the original contract dies.

You literally miss the entire point of “Neutral Support” - you might aswell just make this an Unseen/Cult class if it’s going to Support the Evil Faction.

Also, your “Cremate” acts the same way as Reap, therefore it is the same. You’re stopping people talk with Priest and preventing them from being brought back by Priest. Reap is the same thing.

And if you want “Constructive criticism” - put some effort and passion into your suggestion. Every single one of them are rushed with no thought put into it and no thought to the game mechanics. You’ve posted 8 in just 2 days. NozBugz and Jammy are finding these hilarious because of that.

Put some heart into your suggestions. Take at least an entire day before you even think of releasing your post.

Every single on of my Suggestions took me almost a week to post. Let me give you an example.

Here is a section of my “Classes” Folder in My Documents. These date back over a Month since I created them. I have newer ones coming but I’m not posting them until I feel they’re ready.

Time + Effort

#8

I just changed it to blue dragon and changed the role, due to the recognized problems. I would enjoy suggestions on how to increase it’s power through day abilities.

#9

Do you even know what an Undertaker is?

Morticians or funeral directors, often referred to by the old-fashioned term “undertaker,” are professionals providing funeral and embalming services for the dead and their families.

Why would it investigate how someone died?

#10

The proper name would be Coroner.

#11

Since other memebers already criticized your class i will have to enlighten the mood.

Does not see a move called choke slam
Leaves

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#12

Class has been adjusted drastically, looking for feed back.

#13

Coroner = Weak Physician

Undertaker = ToS’s Janitor

Also, Cremate makes no sense if the target is dead.

“Player may not speak to live players” - in the Dead chat, you can’t speak to live players anyway…

#14

They can through priest.

#15

  1. I think “Test Blood” is a bit OP as if there is 1 death N1 and you get 3 names from it, and there is 1 death N2 and you get 3 names from it, D3 you basically have the Assassin. I like the idea of gaining knowledge from the dead but this seems too strong.

  2. Autopsy is cool.

  3. I really really like the Undertaker. Cremate seems a bit weak compared to Bury, I’m not sure why you would ever use that instead of Bury? Maybe make Cremate a Day ability with limited uses, one you might use on someone who died the previous night?

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#16

If you fixed “Test Blood” and made “Cremate” a limited use day ability I think it would be a pretty cool class.

#17

Has test blood ability; does not reveal killer to evil classes (assuming there are multiple evil classes) which allows for players to claim coroner.[quote=“ThePlex, post:13, topic:2147”]
Undertaker = ToS’s Janitor
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Only if janitor stopped medium and priest, which I do not recall happening. Also, if you think it is under powered, please suggest a day ability.

#18

Wait also I also don’t like the fact it can only appear with a Physician. I don’t think it is a good idea to have fixed classes like that. If you got rid of that and did the other changes I would say you’ve got a pretty strong class.

#19

I’m not going to tell you how to make your class. I’ve said my piece.

Test Blood is OP.

Undertaker =/= Janitor
Bury =/= Clean

#20

If they get converted to unseen, the undertaker is very useless if there is no physician.