[Class Suggestion] The Gardener/The Botanist

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#1

The Gardener :shield:

Neutral Social

Passive (Nature’s Shield) - Prevents visits at night when you use one of your Night Abilities.

Day Ability (Magic Beanstalk) - When the targeted player uses a day ability , it backfires and they target themselves. - 3 Uses(May not target The King.)

Night Ability (From The Ground) - Select a player. That Player won’t be able to talk or vote during the next day.(3 Uses)
Night Ability (Mother Nature) - Select a player. You will be able to talk as them and vote in their place the next day.(2 Uses - The Selected Player will not see your talk.)

The Botanist :shield:

Unseen Social

Passive (Tree Shadow) - While alive , your Unseen members will appear as not suspicious to The Sheriff.

Day Ability (Treachery From The Willow) - When the targeted player investigates someone , they will receive incorrect feedback. - 3 Uses

Night Ability (Flower Power) - Select a player. Any abilities against that player will target instead random players.(2 Uses - CAN Target The King)
Night Ability (Disloyal Until The End) - Your Vote will count as many times as there are Unseen dead. If Nobody is executed the next day , you will gain Death Immunity the next night.(1 Use)

#2

No rng plz

This is kind of too obvious

A BD social most of the time does not need this.

Gardner’s sorta confirmable and you can’t claim it as the Botanist imo, maybe try to decrease the confirmability or botanist these abilities instead but slighty buffed?

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#3

Making a Social class that’s original. Hold on give me 8 years

#4

Yeah it’s hard… really hard to make one whose unconfirmable, unique (not this :shield: meaning to not mimic Msy / Noble), and one that’s fun

#5

Yes.

#6

Gardener’s spelled incorrectly.

#7

Way too strong. You’re essentially night immune as long as you aren’t occupied or prevented from visiting your target.

Sounds like FoL’s Pants on Fire. Seems good, but would fit better in an offensive or support class.

Negative utility. There is no reason why a BD-aligned class should have a blackmail/chill ability.

See above.

Far too strong. This is having the Duchess’ limited-use ability as a passive.

This ability seems fine.

Remove the RNG. As I said before, if your class card has an ability with the word “random” in it, then it needs to be scrapped ASAP.

Strong, but will out the user. So I’d say this is fine as a last-ditch attempt to go past MyLo for the Unseen.

Overall this class needs a lot of work. To be frank, this is a BD social class. Even people who typically make very balanced and unique classes tend to absolutely screw the pooch whenever they try to make a BD social class as they’re stupidly hard to make.

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#8

I feel demoralized. Thanks.

#9

Just avoid BD Socials in general. So far there have been very few BD Social class suggestions here that were actually good, Nuke’s Spy was basically a once-in-a-blue-moon suggestion.

#10

I really like the abilities. They don’t seem that helpful to BD though, or maybe that’s just me? Have you considered making it into a Neutral Social? I think it could fix a couple of holes in a super interesting concept!

#11

Do we really want a convertable neut? Yeah it would be good as neut.

#12

If I was you I’d get rid of the unseen convert and make it an anti-BD neutral in some capacity.