[Class Suggestion] The Lord Commander

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#41

Well, what else would occupy you if you are occupy immune?

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#42

That… doesn’t…

Mastermind and Cult Leader aren’t Occupy immune.

#43

But unseen/cult members can make them immune

#44

Enforcer doesn’t make Mastermind immune to Occupy.

Guarantees The Assassin will kill the target. Bypasses night Immunity, Occupying, and healing.

But should a situation arise that a Ritualist makes Cult Leader immune to Occupy on an attempted Brainwash, then hey, they find Lord Commander on that rare occasion.

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#45

There we go :blush:

Would it not be best to have the convert attempt go through, and they just get a normal convert failed message

#46

I think you needlessly made the conversion thing for the lord commander complicated. Just make him immune to conversion.

#47

I made it that way on purpose.

If they try to convert him, and they see “Your target could not be converted.” they’ll be like “immune, we’ll kill him.” whereas in this case they’ll think twice and just assume they got Occupied.

You’re only saying it looks complicated because you probably enjoy the simple minded things. It ain’t changing. So cross that suggestion off your list.

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#48
  1. No reason to insult me
  2. No, you are incorrect.

I am saying it is complicated because ToL is already hard to learn. Teaching people a rule like this will be difficult.

Not only that, but it is needless. Why can’t the lord commander be outed to them? They missed a night of conversion, they might as well be given a little information.

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#49

The issue is that you’re begging for bug reports the rare occasion a Cult Leader gets blocked when ritualised

#50

Butler’s Concentrated wine Occupies visitors. It’s not hard to understand a mechanic and if it works for Butler, then the code would be simple to copy onto another class.

#51

I feel maybe the Lord Commander should get a message like “Someone tried to convert you, but you would not yield”

#52

except butler doesn’t bypass occupy immunity

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#53

You missed the point. Cult Leader ritualised is supposed to be occupy immune. If they start being occupied, expect the bug reports

#54

Combined with someone saying “I was occupied” followed by no Butler claims and it’s a simple “Hey, you tried to convert me last night” etc etc. I thought about that and I didn’t like it.

I’ve already stated this.

#55

Just give the lord commander another buff.

This is needlessly complicated.

#56

There is literally nothing complicated about it

#57

yes, you have stated it; you didn’t address the main issue. It is a complicated rule jumble, begging for bug reports.

suggestion on how to fix it:

Badge of honor: Immune to visits on nights when the MM or cult leader attempts to convert you

#58

You are missing the point. People will bug report this if it ever happens because it doesn’t feel right.

I was suggesting the alternative instead of an occupy affect.

#59

There is nothing complicated about it.

It works the exact same way as Butler’s concentrated wine.

Therefore, I will not be changing it.

This happened when Butler’s concentrated wine occurred, eventually people started to understand what was going on and it’ll catch on.

#60

I am suggesting the visit one, because it makes the passive simple, and doesn’t really buff him as assassin won’t target the player the MM is converting.