[Class Suggestion] The Philanderer, an uncomfirmable Blue Dragon Social!

It’s certainly a Social class that doesn’t autoconfirm itself, sure, but you went down a mechanical path of messing with people’s night results, and while that’s perfectly viable, my mechanical path was focused around public information and specific checks.

So different paths, same result.

Public information isn’t a mechanical path.

Guys honestly let’s settle this

@discobot fortune

Is this the BEST class ever?

:crystal_ball: Yes

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Case closed.

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Oh and spacific checks isn’t social. That’s Investigative

Your investigative.
:wink:

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In fact. You can’t even fake any of his ability’s reliably

People can’t ask you to confirm visits retroactively because the mark needs to be applied the previous day (and if they ask you to mark them, there’s a 50/50 they either visited you or didn’t, since they don’t know your night target).

Both the mark and the speak-check fail if your night visit is prevented in any way, wasting their use. You can always type “no feedback” on a class that has night abilities without feedback (like Mystic, sometimes Noble) or on classes that might not use their Night ability (Prince, Hunter). And typing “Success” will be often correct.

Wait. So what are the possible results for spend the night?

  1. “Your target’s night ability was successful.”
  2. “Your target’s night ability failed.”
  3. Nothing (No feedback).

If the target does not use a night ability, or it’s a night ability that does not provide feedback at the end of the night, it returns (3).
If the target uses a night ability but it’s prevented/occupied/immune/healed/etc (basically prevented from doing what it would normally do), it returns (2).
Otherwise, it returns (1).

3 and 2 confirm him as they can’t be easily faked.

Remember that the MM and Seeker are the main reason why princess is fakeable

All right, so if I merge 2 into 3, so that the results are either success or no feedback, is that better?

A bit yeah. Wasn’t even a very big complaint I was mostly trying to point out how unfocused this class really is.

Well, the class needs to visit, as most evils do that, and the visit can’t do anything that notifies the target in any way, but needs to provide some sort of assistance in the social deduction process, some highly specific bit of info the class can use to catch someone lying.

The class needs to be useful enough to BD not to immediately exe all claims of it, and give the player playing it clues to piece things together. Those were the restrictions I was working with.

You are looking for a semi-confirmable Investigative class like princess.

Keep in mind that physician and a hypothetical class with just gossip are considered semi confirmable.

Yeah, I already took a stab at the concept from an Investigative standpoint over a week ago with The Occultist/The Witch, which is also uncomfirmable. This is an attempt at a more Social take on it.

If you say a weaker Gossip is too confirmable, what could a BD Social class do during a night visit that doesn’t actually interact with the target at all? Intercepting evil feedback is all well and good, but it seems like a class that visits and whose visits are not known to the target will struggle with the BD Social role.

@Shrimpy
We need your help to analyze this class.

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