[Class Suggestion] The Volunteer | The Untrained

class suggestion: The grim reaper

same as reaper, except he has occupy immunity and has 10 souls at the beginning of the game

You need to learn to quote my entire sentence rather than just the part you want others to see.

This was my entire quote. Now respond to that rather than just the tidbit you picked out.

What has this got to do with anything?

Yes, and the outcomes of the untrained are better than the servantā€™s, even though they both have a similar ability of occupying players.

Wtf are you not listening?

Servant-
Occupy at night
Black Wine (being replaced soon anyway)
Occupy Immunity
Can Claim Butler

Untrain-
Can Occupy
Can give poison scare
Can trick people
CAN BE OCCUPIED

@Queen_Alfa Iā€™m about to lose it.

yes, and I am saying black wine is near useless so untrained is better.

Letā€™s just agree to disagree.

How about no.

Welp, Iā€™m not going to continue arguing, and seeing as no one shares my position, i donā€™t think you can have a conversation with 1 person.

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You literally do not listen anyway so whatā€™s the point?

Plex your right btw but it is a bad habit to ping a Moderator whenever you get into a fight lol. It makes you look like you cant handle your own fights which is not true.

You hypocrite.

How so? I didnā€™t take anything out of context. The rest was pretty much implied, and useless filler. Additionally, it wasnā€™t part of the sentence.

You didnt get the joke that I misquoted you. I cri evry time.,

Donā€™t care, I pinged Alfa because she knows that Norm is and has been provocative toward me so what heā€™s doing right now can be considered just that.

I am not trying to provoke anyone, I am just trying to get you to make the class less OP, because I like the suggestion otherwise.

Hereā€™s why itā€™s not OP:

Untrained can be Occupied.

ā€œAccident Proneā€ is there to trick someone into thinking they were attacked and saved. Deception.

ā€œDaybloomā€ is there to trick someone into thinking they were poisoned. Deception.

ā€œDeceiveā€ is there to trick someone into thinking they were stopped from visiting. Deception.

These can be used to cast doubt on certain BD members and possibly cause confusion and arguments about stuff.

Letā€™s say Deceive is used on Tom, who tried visiting Carl but Carl was also visited by Joe. Tom says he was prevented by a merc or CW, but Joe calls him out on his BS. Was it Untrained or is Tom a liar?

Same goes for the other abilities.

DECEPTION.

It is deffo not OP I would say the Untrained is UP if anything.

do they actually finish the visit, but THINK they were stopped? If so, then this is good suggestion.

I dunno actually, never really thought about it.

make it so you just make them think they are occupied instead of actually occupying them, pls.