More by having lots of information and an unusually good claim for an NK
A non-occ immune Butler / Drunk? Or kinda obs?
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Yes. Remember if he getās occed then he will obviously know about it and even know exactly who he needs to killā¦
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Definitely helps, but you would have to hope someone else dies the same night youāre occād since you canāt stop them from occing you again.
Also lol @ the idea of using HH to make Wraith ravage themselves.
Considering that you are the NK. I would EXPECT someone to die the night Iām occupied.
Also my standard practice as butler is that when I think Iāve stopped a kill I do:
Occ (no kill)
Occ someone else (if a kill:)
Occ again (And if no kill again)
Occ again again (and then accuse if no kill)
that way I wonāt accidentally chain occupy someone when there was a perfectly reasonable explanation for the missed kill. If they are confirmable I would have given them at least 1 night to prove
Thatās fair, but another way to do it is occ until thereās a kill and then swap. If no kills in 3 nights then youāre either really unlucky or a killer, but admittedly I havenāt done the math on it to see whether that shakes out.
The issue there is that if Iām assassin and I miss a kill for 2 nights (cuz immunity or something) then Iād often no action the 3rd night specifically to frame someone being chain occed. Additionally doing that means if you were occupying a, observer or something then you just denied them access to info that could prove their innocents where if you just waited then you could save them.
Sure but that relies on nobody else dying or being killed at the same time.
But this still canāt rely on Butler or Drunk as a claim unless there are no occupiers left, since once it exists people will check to confirm.
I know. But now he has a way to prevent that information from getting out so he can make SURE there are no occupiers before making his move
How? If heās outted in a way that isnāt the Butler/Drunk checking him, heās dead if they decide to verify it. And if itās a confirmed Wraith game via phys exhume theyād definitely check.
Maybe Iām worrying too much about a specific scenario
Whatever it is. Remember that itās counterbalanced by immunity to maid and resistance to observer and princess
Yeah, like jailed, mystic linked or put on the stand.
He really is only immune to maid - he still shows up as k/o and being followed by obs means heāll be something that doesnāt visit which isā¦ like nothing? Hunter? So I guess he uses ravage on any of those investigatives that visit him.
Oh howās his passive ability interact with frame?
Passive resolves first. He would appear Unseen/Cult
I said resistant. Not immune.
Obs doesnāt see him visiting the kill target and peeks him as BD. Princess returns non-attacker on wisp and he can fake offensive instead of just killer.
And yeah ravage
Oh his day abilities count as visits?
No they donāt But his night kill doesnāt either.
I mean say 4 (wraith) attacks 7
Obs watches 7
Obs will not see 4
Reaper and Sorcerer can be outed this way, but Poss and Wraith cannot
Normally obs has 2 chances to catch a killer per night (watching the killer or the attacked). But here he only has 1
Right, but he will see that 4 didnāt visit anyone which is super important information since there arenāt many classes that donāt visit. Hunter is the only offensive claim that has a reason to not visit (bear).
Also howās that interact with Party / Merc guard? Psycho King has occ immunity so it goes through, but I imagine this would get metaphorically stonewalled?