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#21

I was thinking a day defile

#22

The new goal promotes outing yourself for survival in most cases

Sure a Prince could kill you but you can 100% prove yourself via trollbox so that’s not likely if you aren’t harmful

Replacing Stalk is a good first step but that doesn’t fix the core issue here

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#23

Would the Bounty thing I proposed earlier?

#24

Where Scorned chooses targets and needs to get X targets lynched?

#25

But can it just choose scum because if so no

#26

But how are you supposed to know scum before BD does? My suggestion is mutually exclusive with Stalk btw

#27

Actually. I kinda like the new scorned.
the old scorned was based on luck. if your target where strong bd like mmystic, noble or drunk, you would be dead. also, it was possible for evil to kill you target, causing you to suicide.

New scorned do not rely on luck.
I think that’S something we must keep. a class that rely on RNG is just bad.
the problem is new scorned can use TB as mean to confirm themselves. we can remove the TB, since it is not really needed anymore, and it would be better.

#28

The only luck you had was your targets. You almost never get mystic, and if you do, then gg

But rest of it came from skill
Knowing when to frame
Who to TB, how to make it one without making people know it’s a TB, and when to make one.

Now, all you do is claim day 1. The skill ceiling got decreased a whole bunch. You could give a new player this class and they’d still be guarenteed a win. It isn’t as bad as Inq, but it’s basically Inq. Because all they do is side with BD. Plus, the lore is now screwed. It doesn’t make sense

While RNG is bad, I’ll take RNG over a guarenteed win, and another BD sided “Neutral”

/end_rant

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#29

your complain are legitimate.
new scorned as in the same situation as old Inq. nearly. prince do not exe scorned claim in jail and they an invalid claim as evil

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#30

Are you trying to say that you can’t get a Mystic lynched? I beg to differ

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#31

I feel that my suggestion is not RNG based, and therefore does not have the problems you bring up with the old Scorned.

Would you agree?

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#32

higher on the street

#33

Instead of Bait and Switch I think she could get Stalk

but instead of Stalk being a faction check, it’s identical to Obs’ Follow

#34

Okay but how does that at all help you with anything but the last mislynch you need

Blending in? Sure, okay, but I don’t think it does much else

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#35

It would help throw suspicion on Observer claims at least, which are basically confirmed BD once they have one follow.

#36

ditto to Luxy

Obs claims are and have been uncontested in ToL for a very long time

#37

I do agree new scorneds has some problems if they can win easily with bd (especially by outing D1). I understand developers want neuts to be more like neuts.
Here is a temporary fix: out of the 4 executions, at least 2 need to be bd.

#38

and orange, i dont see how the bait and switch is good enough to help scorned get 3 bd executed

#39

Bait and switch Unseen to your target :^)

#40

A bit difficult to know/influence invest’s target and correctly deduce who is unseen 3 times.