Surge was also blocked by Forum update and night killed.
You won’t convince me that Surge wasn’t robbed here
Surge was also blocked by Forum update and night killed.
You won’t convince me that Surge wasn’t robbed here
I will, but it will take a while since Arete + Surge have a combined postcount of ~900 posts.
Scumreads a townie with godawful reasons.
IMO.
Always a scum within Arete/Wazza/Conduit
Wouldn’t be surprised if they are the team.
Light, PKR, Leafia and Insanity I all TR.
PKR being the weakest.
Arete: Arete:Vote Count
Accused Voters Number Trochi PKR, Insanity 2/8 cheese Leafia 1/8 Conduit Surge 1/8 gorta Moleland 1/8 Moleland Trochi 1/8 Leafia Alice, Arete 2/8 [Not Voting] gorta, Conduit, Wazza, Derps, Eli scumcase Conduit or pick one of the “main” “wagons”
Already have.
I’m not voting Town . I’m not picking main wagons. How about we make Conduit the main wagon and vote most probable scum.
Tbh I’m good with either Conduit or Wazza .
I’d just prefer Conduit .
Ok so first off I believe Arete and Conduit both bussed Wazza to receive an extra point.
Arete also said that whoever I SR makes someone more likely Town which he knows damn well is false considering I’m right on my SR’s more then I’m wrong on them. It’s just sometimes my egotisticalness gets the best of me making others tend to have doubt within my reads.
Not to mention if they drain everyone else’s points they can win via votes.
also according to Conduit, he started to TR Eli based on something Arete wrote.
If Arete is Scum here, It’s always with Conduit.
Not Vice Versa.Since no one can be convinced of this and I realize that of such, ill vote with Arete and Conduit so I can also receive a good sum of points so when it comes down to just before LYLO/MYLO I push them the best I can and hopefully convince all of you.
If we reach MYLO/LYLO I believe we just lose due to the points they tally up. In order for Arete and Conduit to play this correctly they would need to only take 1 ability or take low pointed abilities such as the Double Voter constantly. Meaning we can recognize it.Arete also completely 180’ed once he realized Leafia’s wagon was going no where.
He said the following:“we don’t really have enough agreement on a Leafia wagon for her to be viable, and like I mentioned earlier I think it would be really bad if the top wagon still only had 2 votes
and Leafia’s answer makes enough sense that she could maybe be town here”While he did state the wagon was going no where which is fair. Him saying “answer makes sense that oh maybe they can be Town” doesn’t come from town Arete. The answer wasn’t even that great it was just a basic answer that should have already been obvious.
I feel Arete also stopped because he has a good chance to leap into Leafia’s pocket.
Also look what he wrote for Conduit (trying to discredit me):“Conduitis honestly falling a bit for me, their reads are reallyhedgy. when I look at my reasons for not voting them I think that honestly my biggest one is ‘Surge is pushing”
How many times I outta say it, don’t use me as a reasoning behind a read. Not let me stop you or make you do stuff. Don’t let anyone stop you or let you do stuff. This is just a big wolfy excuse from you.
Anyway, maybe I will never convince all of you that Arete is scum. (Definitely won’t convince Leafia) Heck maybe I’m wrong even though I don’t believe I am. But look at Arete for yourself. Read what Arete has done. Then see for yourself on what you think about Arete and why.
Remember Arete is a strong player so you need more then “good posts” to TR him considering he can make “good posts” even as fuckin Jester, it’s completely NAI.
SirDerpsAlot:Who’s PoE atm
Anyone that Arete can throw in that isn’t ConduitConduit/Mole/Cloned
Also a remind if it goes near MYLO/LYLO and could fall into it.
I need you all to take Thug and take either Conduit or Arete’s vote.
Zone_Q11:Vote Count
Accused Voters Number Wazza Arete (1), Insanity (1), Leafia (1), Conduit (1), Trochi (1), Moleland (1) 6/8 cheese Eli (1), PKR (1) 2/8 Conduit Surge (1), Light (1) 2/8 Leafia Alice (1) 1/8 [Not Voting] gorta (1), Wazza (1), Derps (1), cheese (1) Wazza has been executed!
His role was...
You are a [Mafia] Points Sacrificer
- You start with ten (10) points which you can spend on purchasing abilities, shown at the original post of the game thread.
- You may only purchase once per phase.
- If you have successfully executed another player, you will obtain one (1) point.
You win when the other party has been completely eliminated, or when you achieve Majority.
Arete, Insanity, Leafia, Conduit, Trochi, Moleland have received 1 point.
gorta, Wazza, Derps, cheese have received one strike for not voting.
Derps has received one additional strike for not reaching 10 posts.Night 1 starts now and ends at 2020-10-04T20:00:00Z
Zone_Q11:Vote Count
Accused Voters Number Conduit Moleland, Surge, Leafia, Alice 4/7 cheese Derps, PKR 2/7 Arete cheese 1/7 gorta Light 1/7 Moleland Arete 1/7 [Not Voting] gorta, Conduit, Trochi, Eli The Leafia Kill makes things easier yet harder.
Although I’m pretty sure there’s scum within Derps/PKRMy only solid TR ATM is Moleland.
I’m sceptical of everyone else.
Arete doesn’t kill Leafia here over me/Moleland.
Arete is probably Town and Scum kept them alive because they assumed I’d be tunneling them.
I’m thinking 1 of Tro/Light is scum.
Ok so when I said Arete is Town.
I lied. Kinda. Sorta.While Arete could be Scum this is most likely a setup by Mafia.
I’ve narrowed Scum down to 3 potential teams.
PKR / Light - Most Probable
Appel / Light - Kinda Probable
Arete / Light - Least ProbableNotice something similar? Mhm. Light is always scum here.
Light Thug’ed me as well so like he’s scum.
In both the 2 potential teams.
They don’t kill Arete and try and get him ML’ed.Oh actually I missed one.
Put Derps / Light after Appel/Light
Uses Incorrect mechanics to construct a Correct 5-person PoE when there are only 8 people (excluding Surge) left.
@clonedcheese
Please don’t tunnel Gorta and trust me when I say Gorta is Town.
@Arete
Yeah I’m honestly thinking it’s just Light / PKR here.
PKR is acting way more happy then usual and with a scum buddy like Light I could see why.
Aelin:I never seen this…
Yeah he’s scum with PKR.
They probably made that in scum chat together.
Once more, uses godawful reasoning to scumread a town.
Correct Townreads on first read (4) : Leafia, PKR, Insanity, gorta
Incorrect Townreads on first read (1) : Light
Correct Scumreads on first Read (1) : Wazza
Incorrect Scumreads on first Read (6) : Conduit, Arete, Moleland, clonedcheese, Derps, Trochilidae
Correct Townreads after Re-evaluation (2) : Moleland, Arete
Incorrect Townreads after Re-evaluation (0) :
Correct Scumreads after Re-evaluation (1) : Light
Incorrect Scumreads after Re-evaluation (1) : PKR
4 - 1 + 1 - 6 + 2 + 1 - 1 = 0
Nope.
A)Could be wrong on you
B)Could be bussing
C)Wazza is Anti-Town
Does not assume that he cannot be wrong, which is a big improvent for Surge, but something Arete has been capable of for a looong time.
@clonedcheese
@SirDerpsAlot
I’ll tell you what.
I’ll vote Arete here on one condition.
You guys both promise to lock your vote on Light tomorrow.
Proposes to lynch Arete, who he townreads over Light, who is lockscum to him.
Trochilidae:that…actually seems very newbtown to me. in my first game this sounds pretty similar to what i did (alongside hyperposting questions). my point here is that if Conduit was a wolf it’s unlikely they’d be this lost in the thread and this sloppy with their reads. surely wolf!Conduit would have gotten some better coaching than this?
Doubt it.
Completely ignores a valid point from Trochi because it proves him wrong.
Leafia:Thanks. Seth is being the usual Seth too and trying to tunnel villagers. As for what Conduit will flip, I’m not sold on either alignment to be honest. I almost expect Derps to join Seth in trying to tunnel Arete to be honest at this point.
I’m not tunneling.
I’m just going with my solve until it’s proven wrong via Flip.
Says he is not tunneling, while acknowledging that he’s tunneling. (When he shouldn’t even be tunneling in the first place) :wowee:
Now I have to do this for Arete.
Welp, see you in an hour or two. Was about to do this quickly for Surge since he basically just spams his reads with very little reasoning.
I just noticed how no one pays attention to the fact that Arete uses they/them pronouns
I don’t have enough time right now so I’m not going to quote Arete’s entire ISO.
I will admit that early Arete’s townreads were worse than Surge’s.
I will probably check tomorrow but I think Arete’s reads in general were slightly better than Surge’s. (Although I’m definitely biased since they have actual reasonings for their reads)
Things Arete did right:
Anyway, gtg.
I have
I didn’t mean it literally. Sorry if I offended you!
However they voted out ‘better’ town members than Surge did.
Arete - Needed to lynch Conduit and Moleland to game solve. Talked out of lynching leafia and forced to lynch pkr because of no voting
Surge - Needed to lynch conduit and pkr to game solve. Bad push on arete but reassessed before it was too damaging.
Mole - Needed to lynch conduit, derps and maybe gorta to game solve. Incorrect push on Troch/dat was corrected before any flips
Arete - Needed to lynch Conduit
They TR’d this iirc. Anyway, I’ll look at it either tomorrow or tonight.
They voted this
Well, it is objectively correct play to vote the top wagon at EoD when it’s obvious it’s not going to change.
Quickly skimmed Arete’s EoD and they re-evaluated and had conduit as null I think
Doesn’t mean they get a free pass for it. Thye never argued “This is town, this is a mistake”
It’s a team player award and I think the final day from arete exemplifies that In a way surge never did.
Surge did well.
But it’s an award specifically meant to ignore reads and instead predicated on how well you worked with other players in the game.
But arete had a massive advantage of being alive at endgame to actually be a team player
And?
You can look at the average amount of team play while Alive
Arete is still higher imo they just like actively tried to help others work through their read on them and lead the charge at EoD1 to bring together a relatively scatttered town
They had longer to do it but I don’t think surge can, specifically for team play, have the best resume.
I’ve argued with you before and you don’t change your mind so I’m not going to continue to do it
And the awards don’t matter at all and are a wackass system anyways
But
I think arete did deserve this one specifically
I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree then
Oh, ok, so you’re just going to “disagree” with whatever argument we bring up.
Cool, I’m not wasting more time on this then.
You’re not budging from your position either and that makes me the bad guy?
Well, we’ve brought up arguments for why our position is correct and refuted your arguments but you just don’t care.