Corrupt Votes FM - Day 6 (3/15) - Town wins by voting out town

In this world they would lightly support you

This leaves Surge, Gorta, and Light to be scum candidates
I don’t see derps on that list

I don’t see this being a possibility so I feel fine keeping my vote on there
In a world where you’re not scum then we’d have derps be the wolf

I don’t even know if it’s Derps

it might not be Derps

that said … if town is voting out other villagers of their own accord … it’s really easy for wolves to just stay off the town wagons

okay

this is everyone still alive

I’m going to skip reevaling Surge because I’m very confident he’s V, if he’s finally figured out how to fake his scum meta as town then I guess we just lose ¯_(ツ)_/¯

skipping Alice as well because neut claim, I did briefly tinfoil last night that she was scum and the neut just … scumsided and didn’t CC?? but I think that’s really unlikely

that leaves

cheese
Gorta
Light
PKR
Derps
Eli/Appel

to try and reeval

@Lemonfairy has subbed in for Alice.

Yadda yadda yadda. Do not discuss replacements.
(Could we grant her the basic badge?)

bumped her up to TL2, let me know if you need me to do anything else

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@Lemonfairy

hi

your slot claimed town before replacing out (which should be self-explanatory, it’s not like scum would claim scum, but there’s technically a neut in the game), we were thinking that the neut should out themselves if they’re townsiding so we don’t waste an elim on them, can you confirm that you’re not the neut (like your slot claimed)?

cough the message just above says Alice DID claim neut so I’m assuming this was some kind of test to take advantage of the time while I’m still catching up.

I’ll try to skim-read and catch up as quickly as possible. That was a bit of an evasive response but I don’t want to roleclaim as soon as I sub in without knowing what’s going on first.

Oh never mind this slot claimed neut right off the bat lol.

aaaaaand there’s only one neutral
hahahaha

The neut kinda gets to pick its alignment

This slot kind of self-cleared for claiming SOD1.
Would be crazy to wolf-side after open-claiming.

first person on my list: cloned

I’m focusing mostly on D2/D3 here because that’s the day when I feel like I have the best sense of what the scum plan would have been

when I first saw these two posts, I thought this was a reasonably townie response to defending a wolf, re-reading them now I still basically think that, I think this response is pretty genuine

Summary

Read Aroot scum
Although there’s the portion about wazza and aroot not being aligned, its pretty clear those two were distancing yesterday no matter what their alignment was.
And this accusation, although it kinda went UTR, was not something that could be brushed off like mine; Insanity is a player that is held in higher regard than me
although thats not really a high bar to clear
Overall i wanna follow the dead man and
/vote Arete
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okay I wanted to go point by point through all the posts I quoted in the dropdown^ but when I actually looked at them together I don’t actually think that would be helpful, like, I basically just would be saying ‘here he pushes someone, here he pushes someone else’ and I don’t think that’s very helpful

so instead I’m just going to bullet-point the things I found villagery, and pull out anything that made me mrrrrr and talk about it separately

so, things I find villagery:

  • he’s meaningfully pushing people outside the consensus ‘this is who we’re executing’ group at all. scum wouldn’t really have needed to do that, and if they were going to do that they wouldn’t have needed to do more than just lay a sort of perfunctory vote on whatever wagon they wanted.
  • he’s interacting with and trying to solve lots of different people, rather than just focusing on a couple of slots. For players of his experience level a wide focus tends to be village-indicative, whereas wolves at his experience level are more likely to focus on a couple people to analyze.
  • he’s not just going for “easy” wagons while simultaneously he’s not really doing the whole ‘widen the PoE’ thing that you see from scum sometimes, like, scum really doesn’t need to push on me yesterday (today maybe, yesterday no) and yet he spends a large chunk of yesterday making a serious push on me. I also don’t think pushing on the one person defending you is really a strategy that makes sense for scum
  • I think he legitimately believes his reads, the level of conviction he’s showing is a decent look and although he does sometimes change his reads it feels more to me like legitimate reconsideration – I can follow his reasoning for doing it

things that made me mrrrr:

this post is basically fine in a vacuum but it’s kind of weird in terms of his current read on me, the progression is less “there” than it is for some of his other reads

this is roughly my least favorite post in his Iso (not just because it’s about me :upside_down_face:) – saying things like ‘if X flips town, then Y who is pushing them is scum and we should vote out Y’ is the sort of thing I used to say a lot when I was new to playing scum and X and Y were both villagers

however overall I think those two posts are consistent with him being a villager who just thinks I’m way better than I am and thus thinks that me being wrong a couple times makes me a wolf, so they’re not enough to outweigh the other reasons I have to villa-read him

Until someone cough Cough Xblade cough Cough fixes the Facebook Login Redirect so I can log into Surge. I’m using this account until I get my Surge back.
(Chloe said I could)

I’ll be back later and I hate you all for lynching Moleland OwO.
Also Arete is Town.

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I actually wouldn’t mind seeing Arete go today and I will explain my vote on Mole in a bit. I will also explain the reason I want Arete dead today.

When did you get here?

Why in the hell are we blindly voting up derps? We did this with Conduit and Mole and they both flipped town, so why are we assuming derps is a wolf? Like we need to re-evaluate everything because if we keep seeing town flip the wolves are very deep in the town right now.

no one is voting Derps

like as a practical matter

no one’s vote is currently on Derps

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