I mean, this game feels… wrong at this point.
Wazza said that scum is unable to win if he won’t interfere in his game.
Meaning that if scum wins, they won due to game being rigged.
Which just… feels bad tbh.
Both for town and scum.
And if game wasn’t rigged, then tommorow would be 1 more confirmed person alive (From Rat’s check).
It just feels wrong.
Town is hurt becouse game was rigged.
If scum wins, they win due to it being rigged, not theirs gameplay.
This is… just wrong.
you think rat’s piece of information really was what rigged the game? I think it’s more that Kyo bled min and Whysper claimed it instead.
That’s not “rigged”.
That’s strategy of players, theirs ability to think and convince others to it.
If that led to scum victory, it would be actually fair result.
However host changing night results so it favors faction they are cheering for is… rigging the game.
Becouse that doesn’t depend on players ability or choices to begin with.
System is creating moderation logs.
Discobot is for user usage.
Diffferent users, different abilities.
I mean, assume tomorrow Night gets executed.
And now assume that Rat should have gotten information that someone (possibly Night) is town, giving one confirmed town in the F3.
Meaning Night wouldn’t be executed.
Would Whysper still win?
They would need to push idea that 4 mafia voted another mafia instead.
Yeah, it changed outcome of the game heavily.
See the point?
If scum wins, they cannot claim it was only due to them playing better.
Becouse ending would be completely different.
Not to mention Rat wouldn’t be complaining in thread that they are useless and instead would have some better PoV and motivation to solve.
This game lost it’s meaning pretty much.
I agree with this sentiment; maybe not with the reasons.
I think scum only win this because I decided to give Whysper a chance
Which is relatively disappointing they were at the mercy of me to begin with
And town only wins because of me as well
Basically I decided who won except it couldn’t be myself, which is why I feel like this game was wrong
I don’t like NKs
Well, I do see your point. I’m still not sure I agree with you, though. I feel like it’s more dependent on Kyo’s actions than on rat’s mech information.
At this point I kind of just want to see the game end either way, though 
it’s been really slow with suboptimal plays scattered around by all factions except neutral, nothing really out of the ordinary I guess, but at this point I don’t really care who wins because I think town sucked and doesn’t deserve a win.
I think about this and still believe it wouldn’t have been 100%
My kit was criminally underpowered especially with the massive influx of investigators
Rat had info against me
TL could’ve had info against me
PKR would’ve had info against me and forced me to nightkill them
But, the real kicker of this setup’s balance isn’t the NK
Oh no, actually, it’s far from it
If that was to aim at only town that would’ve been catastrophic D1
It’d kill like, 4-5 townies and also let mafia quickly BW a ML at EoD.
