/vote Astand @CRichard564 @Wazza
Tbh. I donāt.
I know it works against what I said, but Iām more busy with selecting design for my new house.
As for Light, I actually think Iām liking him more after he tried to interrogate me.
Didnāt feel like he was doing it in bad faith (after he clarified), and I donāt think a wolf in his position would go for the angle on me of all people in this gamestate (I donāt quite see the reason, as heād know it would be pointless and potentially weird).
I highly suspect that wagons yesterday ended up being just v/v/v since clonedās wagon composition doesnāt inspire confidence at all.
Iād never flip cloned before people like TL and dota I think.
(also dota never getting any real attention is noted).
Lol thread reads or smn
I won't subject people to scrolling quotes
I actually canāt really argue that this sort of hands-off attitude isnāt anything atypical for PKR (even if I could find it wolfy for someone else).
The mention of liking their role is actually slightly villagery imo (as itād soft lock him into claim if heās a wolf, and overall villagers tend to talk about their role more freely than wolves in situations where they donāt really need to, from my experience).
Eh, the postās reads are a bit on the generic side, even though I donāt necessarily hate them (but just a bit boring, I guess, and Iām not sure why these people in particular, especially Ami?)
But meh, itās fine, I guess.
Not sure I like how PKR presents Cent vs Leafia as dichotomy, as if Cent being towny makes Leafia look worse (would make Cent/Leafia V/V if PKR were a wolf).
Would be looking if any such contradictions were found by him tbh. (were they?)
Hm, I donāt think this sort of hedge is really scummy as it might be showing that PKR did consider Vulās post carefully instead of just making a big townread on him (which he could totally settle up for if he wanted to, and I think heād probably prefer that? Especially since Vul is obvious when heās town and thereās little benefit putting this sort of shade for scum imo).
Overall the post is alright.
The post feels more or less genuine with how he tries to help min get into the game (or at least, in a way that I would say is absolutely never w/w fwiw, but leaning towards coming from a villager perspective tbh).
The post on Windward is fine (I like the admittance of possibly getting biased, gives a feel indicative of more transparent thought imo).
This reminds me to ask what PKR thinks about dota currently, because I didnāt feel that dota was playing in their town meta.
(eh Iāll try to look only at posts that stand out to me in some way)
Thatās actually probably a towny feeling to have lol.
Not sure I completely like how PKR approaches cloned and majora here (pointing out things against them, but then calling them misguided, but not really comitting to their defense I feel? Idk)
I can relate to this feeling easily, I guess (which is good, maybe? At least maybe it makes the previous post make more sense).
I like the ratās push (irregardless of whether I agree or not), just for the fact that itās a completely original push at the very least (and itās decently nuanced).
I donāt agree with their take on TL, but I donāt necessarily think itās bad per se. At least, I can believe PKR believed in it.
I think the perspective of wanting to protect TL is consistent in how his EoD has progressed.
Thatās it for D1.
Overall I think PKR is probably town? At the very least, I think there were a few posts that he probably wouldnāt have made as scum (or at least, I think that would be unlikely coming from scum), and I donāt really remember now what I particularly disliked about their EoD (I think their progression was fine and consistent).
I do want to know what he wants to push today exactly.
Ok, sure, but it wouldnāt hurt to know whatās going through your head at least.
Thatās why I asked.
Marshal is not allowed to replace in due to being a spectator now. So ignore this, Marshal.
I like this post actually
What is your opinion on how people progressed into other peoples wagons/reactions or whatever?
Summary
Idk, attitude-wise Iād probably call this opening more towny than not (even if thatās a weak read, but hey). Because it shows more of perspective of wanting to have suspicions on others rather than existing (which from level of WiM gorta has would be about the only thing heād be able to manage).
I donāt think Iād actually be considering amount of content for reading gorta tbh.
(I actually think that I once was looking through gortaās scum and town games and one of the things was that as a wolf he tries to push agenda from early on to some extent (or at least tries to force himself to make some stances) while as town he gets hedgy and hesitates much more.
Eh, the push on eevee might be somewhat reminding me of that (and also the fact that surely gorta knows eevee enough to know itās NAI for eevee)?
At least having first scumread for posting LW jokes seems a bit easy read to make.
Could be whatever, but the reason for the suspicion is kinda the same (which is a bit repetitive).
If thatās a read based on initial impression, then why any sort of confidence?
āIf he keeps going this wayā I mean, sure, but then why not wait and see instead of declaring āconfidenceā?
Why not push them for lynch (also noting gorta/eevee as obviously not w/w at this point).
Thatās a pretty wolfy post, especially several hours before EoD (I could see wolf!gorta making it if he has little grasp on the thread and isnāt motivated much). And pretty weird to be uninterested at Eod when thatās the most important time in the day basically.
But sure, he seems to have made some opinions after that.
Basically a hedge and a non-read.
I donāt like them, I hate a gimmick, their posts are forced, but claim is good and we shouldnāt lynch them?
Donāt think Iām a fan of this post as it has simultaneously soft defense of Majora for their claim and listing the wolfy things they did? As if gorta was in his heart encouraging his wagon while saying something that he could later say āBut I was against itā.
Thatās I guess sorta kinda fine. Pretty weak though.
I donāt think gorta/TL are w/w based on this either fwiw (as TL was in real danger before the initial EoD deadline).
And itās the vote that I remember disliking at the time too.
Actually a good question to ask is why gorta was trusting Mist at all at that point? Mistyx wasnāt in townreads gorta had. In fact, I donāt think gorta mentioned Mistyx at all before that point?
What the fuck lol, gorta said Eli was giving them town vibes just few posts beforeā¦
And itās a terrible thing to ask, āAre we CFDāing Eli nowā, as if only cares to follow the flow of the thread.
I actually thinkg gorta is probably scum now 
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popping in for a few seconds just to say that i like arctic exploring other options during their eod
they iso and scumread gorta, they list sculptor as an option (although it seems out of nowhere but i havenāt been able to read arcticās full iso again to figure out where that came from), and i donāt really hate their end vote on majora
it felt like a resigned vote on a wagon that actually existed, after gorta gained 0 traction
admittedly, arctic didnāt vote gorta, but i didnāt initially vote arctic either, so i kinda understand that
not sure how to feel about arctic barely commenting about any of the top wagon options, though
he barely said anything about eli and he only commented on majora when it was basically the last moment to do something
never said a word about tl as far as i can see in his iso
never said a word about cloned either and didnāt seem to mind the wagon dying
tl;dr i like arcticās interest in pursuing new avenues during last eod, especially considering we ended up wagoning two villagers
i dislike the fact he had so little interest in the main wagons he didnāt comment on these people at all
at all
People can look at this.
And they can also ask themselves why did gorta trust Mistyx all of a sudden at that EoD.
Trust enough to follow them to CFD the slot gorta was townleaning about half an hour before that.
And also gorta didnāt seem interested in pushing his own scumread, like, at all? When it mattered.
But I do think the progression he had EoD is just kinda laughable really anyway (laughable in āitās extremely wolfyā way).
/vote gorta @Wazza @CRichard564
Would go here for now, as holy crap, I really do feel about this one more strongly than about anything else.
Iād think more at some point if I should let it affect my reads on TL and such. (but Iāll repeat that TL/gorta are most likely not w/w from the vote gorta placed just before the āfirstā EoD).
in case someone doesnāt see what the problem with that is
it implies a lack of investment in yesterdayās eod
and if youāre a wolf during yesterdayās eod, you see the town wagon two villagers, and you pog hard, but you donāt have to do anything, really.
in that sense, the only thing arctic did was cast a resigned vote on majora and nothing else
which isnāt a great look unless heās a villager who resigned himself to having the day end with wagons he considered bad
which isā¦ eh? i havenāt considered arctic the type of player who passively accepts bad play of his town teammates. iād like to see at least some commentary regarding the wagons, maybe some defending or pushing for the options he suggested instead of the consensus he apparently didnāt agree with
i kinda vibe with this take
where do you stand regarding whoās town?
probably the worst thing there but itās not the most inspiring iso to begin with