Countries FM - The Cold War - Game Over - Communism is Victorious! - (2/24)

[Vulgard]

@Nightingale

Whysper is almost certainly Mafia.

i agree with that given how tight the poe is

[Nightingale]

So I still don’t think that Whysper is NK, but only because they’re in an extremely tight Mafia PoE.

[eevee]

@Vulgard

rapid fire reasons
nk probably doesn’t claim roleblocker
nk probably doesn’t claim whatever gorta claimed, and if they do, they try harder to look towny instead of surviving eod 2 and mostly coasting
whysper isn’t nk because dota played like a potato and you don’t want to be in poe as nk because that invites town to use their abilities on you
tl isn’t nk because nk probably doesn’t claim watcher
although his results are not really great, but he has a similar problem to whysper being nk

So basically people are not NK due to them being scummier?

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[min]

This picture is funny and it’s also mine now thanks

[Vulgard]

@eevee

So basically people are not NK due to them being scummier?

stop gaslighting me because that’s not what i said in that post at all

[Vulgard]

i feel like eevee believes me but is just messing with me for his own amusement

[Nightingale]

So, in our NK PoE we have (Clearing out the extremely likely Mafia, and Light for having the most unlikely NK fakeclaim of the three anyways):
Gorta
Kyo

Which admittedly is not a lot.

[Vulgard]

and kyo used gorta’s read on astand to shoot there (because he probably thought astand was mafia given how eod2 went), then claim the kill for towncred and directly appeased to gorta to pocket him

who’s the nk there
gorta, who did nothing
or kyo, who was actively improving his position?

[Vulgard]

point me to one game played on this site where the nk plays like a potato and doesn’t actively try to improve their position

[eevee]

@Vulgard

rapid fire reasons
nk probably doesn’t claim roleblocker
nk probably doesn’t claim whatever gorta claimed, and if they do, they try harder to look towny instead of surviving eod 2 and mostly coasting
whysper isn’t nk because dota played like a potato and you don’t want to be in poe as nk because that invites town to use their abilities on you
tl isn’t nk because nk probably doesn’t claim watcher
although his results are not really great, but he has a similar problem to whysper being nk

Light - Claim
gorta - Claim + Being scummy
Whysper - Being scummy
TL - Claim + Being scummy

That’s your reasoning.

By being scummy I mean “not putting enough effort” which is terrible argument unless you follow it with psychoanalysis of each of this people.
Which you didn’t.
And not everyone plays same after all.

So… yes… your reasoning here is bullshit. It’s not leading to conclusions itself, it’s more like it is meant to support conclusions.
You crafted it to fit your worldview where Kyo is NK.

I will repeat my question - where is your actual reason to think Kyo is NK?

[Vulgard]

also, the claim that my case relies on kyo killing 2 people is like
duh?

no town vig has claimed the kill on centuries. there is no claimed town vig who shot mafia n2 unless you believe kyo. eevee shot youbutworse.
mafia wouldn’t have been able to kill 2 of their partners, so it wasn’t them.

@eevee

Light - Claim
gorta - Claim + Being scummy
Whysper - Being scummy
TL - Claim + Being scummy

That’s your reasoning.

By being scummy I mean “not putting enough effort” which is terrible argument unless you follow it with psychoanalysis of each of this people.
Which you didn’t.
And not everyone plays same after all.

So… yes… your reasoning here is bullshit.

so you’re just going to zero in on me saying dota has been playing too poorly to be nk
and ignore the mechanical reasons i presented

@eevee

I will repeat my question - where is your actual reason to think Kyo is NK?

i wrote a massive post explaining it and you continue to ignore everything i said there because you don’t like one or two points i used

[Nightingale]

Eh, I’m still not confident in my social reads to completely clear Gorta here, but I do agree that Kyo feels likelier of the two.

[eevee]

@Vulgard

so you’re just going to zero in on me saying dota has been playing too poorly to be nk
and ignore the mechanical reasons i presented

Give me mechanical reason then.

Cause so far your mechanics point towards saying that literally everyone else could be NK without needing for bonus abilities, as Kyo does.

[Nightingale]

What are the chances that there’s another Lost Wolf in play? If so, that could definitely be Gorta.

[min]

Can’t be rat said 4 nontown

[eevee]

@Nightingale

What are the chances that there’s another Lost Wolf in play? If so, that could definitely be Gorta.

100%, considering my role

[min]

go play your piano nerd

[Vulgard]

that’s literally not true
nk doesn’t claim something that is easily disprovable so that automatically clears the majority of players in this game
and dota has just been lingering in poe this entire game without even trying to get out of it and whysper hasn’t really gotten any better, even though she lacks the burden of tmi and could easily pull this off as a result

[Nightingale]

2 more pack wolves, a lost wolf, and an NK?

[min]

ouch

2 lost wolves in a game would be funny