/vote Arctic @Wazza @CRichard564
| Accused | Voters | Count |
|---|---|---|
| an_gorta_pratai | Centuries, ArcticXI, astand, Vulgard | 4/10 |
| ArcticXI | sculptordwarf, min, AtNoName, eevee | 4/10 |
| AtNoName | rat, clonedcheese | 2/10 |
| Centuries | Light | 1/10 |
| Not voting | Ami, dota, PKR, YoubutWorse, Leafia, an_gorta_pratai, TrustworthyLiberal, Kyodaz | 8 |
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Was the vig not an obvious fake claim lol
But what if thatās your plan cuz you didnāt want me to claim
iām back here for a few minutes and this is just a mess
atnoname shouldnāt be a wagon after last eod and after whatās just happened. i donāt think mafia atnoname has the audacity to just ping people and ask for claims after a dayvig (which i think always comes from mafia here. windward was universally townread as far as i remember), it doesnāt fit his wolf profile.
clonedās reaction to it was very omgusy and sudden. in a vacuum itās bad but towny, just like what at did with asking for claims. i just dislike the fact heās still potatoing and not really solving. and also, iāve seen wolf ate from him before, just before he was dayvigged in dreaming gods, so ate/emotional responses themselves are not outside of his wolfrange. he hasnāt improved whatsoever since day 1, even after we were given additional motivation to do so by learning that wagons were v/v. i think he can still easily be mafia for those reasons. also pointing out that he was present at several points during eod but didnāt seem to care at any of those points.
this look like shade on eli for no reason but maybe iām reading this wrong
the one towny thing about this is that (outside of being overtly bad) he doesnāt seem to give a single fuck about dying, and he was very much in contention until the whole tl thing
could be manufactured but i donāt think iāve ever seen mafia!cloned value his life so little. this makes me think cloned might still be town, so i feel a bit more conflicted about him. his iso has a lot of terrible-looking stuff in it, but it also has instances of not caring about his position in the thread and about his survival on day 1. iāve never seen mafia cloned play without any regard for his life and that throws me off a little. it feels like a more likely town flip in comparison to gorta/arctic. iām explaining gorta/arctic later in this post
i am still ambivalent about tl and it bothers me because i should have had a read on him by now. iāll go jump into his iso again to track progression
i donāt think gortaās out of his wolfrange. iāve been tracking his responses and i donāt think his anger is necessarily ai at all. his explanation for his voting patterns last eod doesnāt really hold up to me because i still think he wouldāve been more hesitant to sheep people if he originally had a townread on someone, as town. town gorta is a very careful and methodical player, for him to vote on someone he townread despite the threadstate shifting that way is unusual and i would sooner perceive it as a scum move than a town move. his explanation was decent enough but i also think scum gorta could think of that as an excuse, so it didnāt really move the needle for me that much.
i think arcticās aggression today is really weird, too. heās just been accusing people seemingly at random. i think it was more pointed in his last towngame, here it looks more like a total mess, and iām not sure if heās making these pushes for the sake of posturing or if he genuinely believes them. interactions with min came across as needlessly aggressive, too. my case yesterday relied on arctic being far too hesitant to do things in comparison to his towngame, and we gave him a day. today, heās been playing with extreme aggression, as if responding to my case on himā¦ but i donāt have any idea where the aggression is supposed to be headed. he is butting heads with people left and right and i fail to find any reason why, outside of posturing. i donāt believe heās trying to solve the game that way, heās just been generating conflicts for no apparent reason, and thatās wolfy. the thing where he is now recklessly aggressive after the argument i gave earlier @ him not being pushy enough is also making me 
, because he could be caving into my wishes to make me stop scumreading him, and thatās awfully wolfy as well.
iām perfectly fine with gorta/arctic wagons existing at the moment for the reasons stated above, i think thereās always 1+ wolf here.
i think minās town. i liked the way they approached interacting with arctic and the things they were saying felt genuine. thereās not much more to this read.
eeveeās basically trolling and i think we should stop giving eevee a pass for doing it. not sure what sculptor is thinking with the mason claim and dayvig claim bs but that should end too if sculptor is town. eevee has not made a single piece of effort to help solve the game and is just coasting because heās eevee. i think this slot should die, since itās actually wolfier than ami, who has only done nothing because she has posted nothing. eeveeās actually existed, heās just done nothing too, and that includes not contributing to yesterdayās eod in any way when we were wagoning villagers just fine ā a comfortable mindset for succeeding mafia to have. if trolling and potatoing continues to work out for you, just continue trolling and potatoing.
tl;dr @ eevee: get rid of eevee, unimpressive slot overall, not based
i think itās also fairly obvious i donāt believe the mason claim, but it looked like a joke to begin with, so.
sculptor trolling alongside eevee really threw me off and iām not sure how to feel about it. feels really bold to come from a wolf but not impossible. mrrh.
@rat whyās your vote on at? or did i miss it
i think ratās been underwhelming today and their vote being on at doesnāt make me feel much better.
@Leafia where are you
i forgot to call people based / unbased instead of town/mafia but whatever
@dota where are you too
i think itās >rand town to just not post until now on day 2 (excluding irl circumstances) but thatās the thinnest thing ever and this slot has close to 0 content
which looks significantly worse given how last eod turned out
town (groups are not ordered):
centuries
astand (still tring both these slots)
min
atnoname
pkr (partially mech)
kyodaz
youbutworse
sculptordwarf (only on the condition that they actually do something and arenāt w/w trolling with eevee or something, otherwise yeet them straight back into poe. at some points, their interactions with eevee donāt feel like āsame wavelength,ā so they look slightly better than eevee does ā they are also trying to actually play the game. but i still find it increasingly difficult to justify townreading them, outside of some tonal stuff / proactive voting / trolly attitude possibly signifying town in this case.)
leafia (this read is fading super rapidly because she hasnāt existed today. still probably wouldnāt kill her rn though)
rat (faded away like leafia, but harder, since i really dislike the vote on at. the same thing concerns cloned to an extent)
no strong read / poe:
ami
dota
tl
light
eevee
cloned
arctic
gorta
this tier is unordered as well by the way
the bottom two groups is where i plan to kill today
sorry if the post is unorganized, but i decided to write this before going to sleep and i kept adding stuff i was able to think of
good night
you are clearly not reading the content of my posts then
this has got to be a joke
you liked the way their entire read on me was OMGUS after i called out their post as hedgy and you think that was genuine?
HELLO?
It was because your read clearly isnāt in good faith bruh 
u literally said me joking about being dumb is ate and then randomly threw a shit ton of shade on me for zero reason
Vulgard made me want to actually play the game seeing his post
ok so from 2382 re-reading
its a random post i scrolled up to
ends up being the post before twl logged on so like ok cool
This is a NOT W/W interaction 99% of the time
YBW vote is ok
I donāt think itās a good vote
Itās not a bad vote either
I donāt think itās on a read they talked much about
Iād say him going for gut is townier than not with the threadstate
Something I remember about Min at eod
I didnāt really like them, note that me not liking them itās necessarily me w reading Min I think it just, Min isnāt doing much at EOD by yelling at people who are being wagonned for claiming
I still think this sucks attitude wise
Not good really, itās not like the slot has improved either
PKR is calm, he actually talked about this earlier on, it feels too serene still for me, he isnāt even typing fast I can actually feel the energy he had at eod, thereās punctuation for gods sake
Windward attitude is also eh, its iioa as fuck
I have the feeling all my current TLs did fuck all at eod and it weirds me out
Ditto here I feel
I wouldnāt go as far as switch my TRs and SRs but like, Iām not really in love with this kind of attitude at 5 minutes before EOD with no VC
W Windward probably doesnāt feel the need to make that kind of comment as W tbh
Min hyperfocusing on claims at this point is very eh
Itās not like analyzing anything it feels very sour
Wolf Gorta who has TMI and V Gorta who has done nothing all day long wouldnāt have the same goal
I donāt feel like Gorta is trying to think of the better lynch TBH
I donāt know tbh
To me this could be read as either alignment
The talking points fall more in line with what townie would think since itās basically my stand at this eod minus for the fact I TRād Eli a bit
It also feels fluffy so not much of a fan of that vote in particular
im of the philosophy
that id rather kill scummy play than bad play
gorta i guess still
I yelled at the fact people had to claim lol not at people
I alsoā¦ literally placed my vote on people and even encouraged people to get off the wagons but nobody listened to me. why take that post out lol
why do you people take what I say out of context how is that the only post how is that and my other post complaining about people claiming the only posts you find when Iāve literally said more itās so frustrating itās like everyone is trying to find damning posts from me and ignoring the rest of them
and donāt tell me I donāt have the right to be frustrated when Arctic here is shading me for calling myself dumb