Countries FM - The Cold War - Game Over - Communism is Victorious! - (2/24)

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I refuse to believe you forgot cent is a lost wolf again

[eevee]

@Nightingale

It’s not the Benelux. I’m not sure it makes much sense flavour-wise.

@eevee

Wild guess:

Belgium, Denmark, Netherlands, Iceland, Luxemburg, Norway, Italy.

4 between this 7.

You should see where I’m coming from.

Is that guess true @Nightingale?

If yes, we can leave it at that, if not… I would probably push it further.

[Nightingale]

I’m not a European country.

[eevee]

Then you aither are Congo or Indonesia?

[Nightingale]

I have mech reasons why I don’t exactly want to push this further.

[eevee]

And I have solving reasons to push it further.

[Aelin]

Just read it holy shit
this is what villagers do
they look at arguments and then argue/defend against them
Nothing we have says that scum didn’t know who centuries was
it would be really fucking stupid if they could kill their own lost wolf

[eevee]

@Nightingale maybe other way around, is Congo in your neighborhood?
Not necessarly you, just in general.

[ATNoName]

so what continent are you in?

[eevee]

Asking for exacrly theirs flavor is useless question.

I’m more interested in general neigborhood, not only theirs.

[eevee]

For what I care, they can swap between them flavor they claim to avoid weird flavor-related roles.

I’m more interested why is that a neighorhood with apparently nothing connecting them?

[min]

@Aelin

Nothing we have says that scum didn’t know who centuries was

I CLEARLY DIDNT NOT BECSUSE IM MAFIA AND DIDNT KNOW BUT BECAUSE IM LITERALLY TOWN.

you literally used this argument against someone else and UR using it on me now?? WHAT??

BRUH

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you csnt accuse me of having tmi on a lost wolf bur then agree yoy shouldn’t use tmi on another person

?/??:?:$:$3)37:&:89;&;

[Aelin]

You just ignored the entire wall post didn’t you
Alright
At this point, I’m ignoring you. Oh well.

[Aelin]

An hour fifty til EoD btw, and I still have an hour of class left
I’ll try my best to post some more reads in the event that I do die

[min]

I read it

I’m not gonna argue with you because you’ve basically taken my shit out of context

You also are being hypocritical while trying to call me hypocritical

[min]

stop ur bs trying to make my words mean shit you want them to be and stop being hypocritical as hell

[Nightingale]

My silence probably gives you an answer to your question, Eevee.
If it doesn’t, I’d rather keep our cards close to our chest while PKR and Vulgard aren’t here.

[Aelin]

Rushing because class is about to start but here you go

@Nightingale

My initial impressions are that Ant is wolfy and Cheese is villagery, but I’ve only briefly skimmed some sections of the thread.

Starts off by somewhat solving.

@Nightingale

I think I found it, and that’s effectively what it is.
Can’t say that just that is an entirely unfounded reason to wolfread someone though.

Doesn’t say whether or not they agree, but they’re still just starting out.

@Nightingale

My Ant wolfread is probably not good so I probably won’t push it.

This is questionable, though. They didn’t give starting reasoning, nor did they give reasoning for changing their mind.

@Nightingale

Eevee feels considerably different tonally than before the accusation.
I don’t know if that means much, and I’m a bit scared about dipping into BM with emotional arguments.

@Nightingale

I don’t defend myself that much as villager (often less than I probably should), so l might just be biased against it, but i don’t like how Eevee’s mindset immediately went to defending themselves.
This isn’t a core of any wolfread on them.

@eevee

Then what is your argument, cause rn you are like “I cannot find anything against them socially, I have mechanical info which noone knows, eevee defend yourself”.

How do you want me to defend myself, considering I don’t even know your only accusation reason?

Feels more like annoyance than anything AI, I’m not sure how we’re reading it so differently

@Nightingale

I also think that Eevee missing “Vulgard is a wolf” in favor of “Vulgard tracked me nowhere” worlds is weird, particularly with the strength of Vulgard’s claim.

@Nightingale

I’m assuming that Vulgard is relatively consensus villager here, but not mechlocked.

So why would that confuse you. This is kinda contradictory in the sense of “why is he not sussing vul, btw vul is town right?”

@Nightingale

Arctic feels weird, it doesn’t seem like they’re trying to solve Eevee’s slot?
I wouldn’t think they’re partners though. If Arctic is wolf, I think they’d be more likely to sink a teammate in Eevee’s position.

I don’t actually understand this post. @Nightingale assuming you see this, can you clarify what you were saying here?

@Nightingale

That’s why it’s so hard for me to start to find Eevee villager right now.
I work based off stances.
Eevee’s only stance is their decision to remove accountability for all their future stances.
This isn’t necessarily wolfy, but it puts me at a dead end with solving them.

This isn’t actually a bad post imo
It… makes sense cognitively

@Nightingale

My Cheese read is purely old tone, I’m not sure where it stands now.

Follows up on the old Cheese read that they started off with

@Nightingale

@KyoDaz

What? No it’s not. We do get absolutely no information from flipping eevee, except if eevee flips Town it’s very likely Vulgard is a next mislynch if they’re town (which I believe they are) and what you’re going for.

Demonstrably false, I’ll look at Gorta’s progression but Arctic looks significantly worse if Eevee is a villager.

Don’t understand in the context of earlier thinking that Arctic/Eevee might be W/W

@Nightingale

Understandable, I vaguely feel more comfortable with them both as top wagons for creating interactions?

@Nightingale

This post will probably draw a ton of fire from Kyo~

A mixture of carefree and self-conscious comes more from a villager knowing they’re in a precarious position imo

@Nightingale

No, but wolves (and villagers sometimes) try to sometimes start hypersolving to try to get people to have last-second doubts.

uh >_>

@Nightingale

/vote Rat @CRichard564 @Wazza
Interactions with Arctic are weird, isn’t villagery regardless.

A decently contrarian read
If they were scum, most scumbuddies would have definitely tried to stop them from doing this after the death of three scumbuddies

@Nightingale

Vulgard
Ant/Gorta
PKR/Kyo/Rat*/Leafia*
— PoE Line —
min
Whysper/Trustworthy
Eevee/Cheese/Light

Still interested on where all this shit with Eevee is going
Arctic/Eevee scumbud equity -> Arctic scummy if Eevee town -> Eevee scummy after Arctic’s flip

@Nightingale

Stars are there because of Mech.
I think this mostly agrees with Vulgard’s PoE, which makes sense because we reached similar conclusions independently in the night. Vulgard is just able to express them better.
Gorta is really just cleared here for how Astand treated them, on top of how Arctic treated them, and how the thread treated them.
I saw some Arctic/Min interactions that made me think that Min was a villager? I should probably pull those up.
I’m slowly pulling away my initial villa-read on Dota as time goes on. I haven’t seen Whysper post yet, so I’ll wait for that I guess.
Ant is generally villagery and specifically has good takes, and good interactions with Arctic.
I’m inclined to say that wolves are on the inactive end of things, but whenever I make that statement, it never seems to really work out.

Pretty weird after the readlist with Min being scummy and Whysper being scummy as Dota’s replacement

@Nightingale

Vulgard is basically always a villager here, based on multiple factors that can be explained (hopefully) if necessary, none of which are strictly mechanical.

I would like this explanation greatly

@Nightingale

Still, based on the way that Min and Arctic treated eachother, I don’t think they’re aligned. Min’s push doesn’t sound like it comes from a knowledge that Arctic is wolf, and both sides sound like they’re legitimately trying to attack eachother. I have moderate faith in this spew, since this is Arctic’s first wolf game (I think?).
Min, independently, is mildly villagery, but I don’t think that on it’s own is clear-worthy. I think they’re villager mostly from their Arctic interactions.

This is something that I saw too, but Min has just been a bit too scummy that I don’t really think I can discount bussing especially with the drawback of using the claimvig

@Nightingale

@Aelin

/unvote

My head and my gut are disagreeing on Centuries at this point… hnnnnnnnng

I’m also pretty sure that this is a wolftell. I see the type of reads with head/gut split coming from wolf a lot more often, as an indication of a TMI/Agenda split.
I’m not sure how accurate it is, but Light’s response to Rat’s pressure on this post doesn’t make their thought process any clearer, which I think it would be if they are a villager?

But, you see - I’m Towngod Light
Nothing I do makes sense for jack shit

@Nightingale

Not really because they were out of thread, but because their reads were completely out-of-touch with the consensus and I couldn’t track their thoughts at all.

Additionally, I thought this post was the sort of fake-sounding request for clarification that a wolf would make when trying to sound villagery.

@clonedcheese

Question @Leafia

Is there anything, short of an alignment check, that can confirm you to the outside world?

A fruit, for instance

Just a yes/no plz

I’ll try to put my finger on explaining why, I’m having a bit of trouble right now (which is why this is taking so long to post).

I also understand this post, especially with the fact that cloned was technically their greatest scumread at the time makes me feel like this is more a townie hyperfocusing on their scumreads

@Nightingale

Appearantly trying to volume clear myself now that I’m at a computer isn’t a valid strategy for getting free villa-reads.
Sad.

This post seems so off though
But not in a wolfy way
Just, why would someone say this? As town or wolf?

@Nightingale

I don’t think that Light pushing Leafia after they claimed mason is indicative of either alignment. I could easily see Light doing it as a villager, but I also don’t see how their thought process would be much different as a wolf, since it’s an action depending on sticking to reads instead of re-evaluating them.

@Nightingale

I know that, and I think holding your read regardless of seeing that is something you could do as both alignments.

I’m having trouble seeing the thought process here though
because like
it was an rt
i backed up the fact that it couldn’t be anything other than an rt

I’d actually say this is more townie than I intially thought
So
Take that as you will
Not like locktown by any means, but shrug
null-town to a light townlean

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bruh

thanks so much

I totally like being ignored yeah totally it’s not like I have genuine problems with that no not at all

Fuck this I’m not gonna be here for eod sorry