I like this post actually
What is your opinion on how people progressed into other peoples wagons/reactions or whatever?
Summary
Idk, attitude-wise I’d probably call this opening more towny than not (even if that’s a weak read, but hey). Because it shows more of perspective of wanting to have suspicions on others rather than existing (which from level of WiM gorta has would be about the only thing he’d be able to manage).
I don’t think I’d actually be considering amount of content for reading gorta tbh.
(I actually think that I once was looking through gorta’s scum and town games and one of the things was that as a wolf he tries to push agenda from early on to some extent (or at least tries to force himself to make some stances) while as town he gets hedgy and hesitates much more.
Eh, the push on eevee might be somewhat reminding me of that (and also the fact that surely gorta knows eevee enough to know it’s NAI for eevee)?
At least having first scumread for posting LW jokes seems a bit easy read to make.
Could be whatever, but the reason for the suspicion is kinda the same (which is a bit repetitive).
If that’s a read based on initial impression, then why any sort of confidence?
“If he keeps going this way” I mean, sure, but then why not wait and see instead of declaring “confidence”?
Why not push them for lynch (also noting gorta/eevee as obviously not w/w at this point).
That’s a pretty wolfy post, especially several hours before EoD (I could see wolf!gorta making it if he has little grasp on the thread and isn’t motivated much). And pretty weird to be uninterested at Eod when that’s the most important time in the day basically.
But sure, he seems to have made some opinions after that.
Basically a hedge and a non-read.
I don’t like them, I hate a gimmick, their posts are forced, but claim is good and we shouldn’t lynch them?
Don’t think I’m a fan of this post as it has simultaneously soft defense of Majora for their claim and listing the wolfy things they did? As if gorta was in his heart encouraging his wagon while saying something that he could later say “But I was against it”.
That’s I guess sorta kinda fine. Pretty weak though.
I don’t think gorta/TL are w/w based on this either fwiw (as TL was in real danger before the initial EoD deadline).
And it’s the vote that I remember disliking at the time too.
Actually a good question to ask is why gorta was trusting Mist at all at that point? Mistyx wasn’t in townreads gorta had. In fact, I don’t think gorta mentioned Mistyx at all before that point?
What the fuck lol, gorta said Eli was giving them town vibes just few posts before…
And it’s a terrible thing to ask, “Are we CFD’ing Eli now”, as if only cares to follow the flow of the thread.
I actually thinkg gorta is probably scum now 
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popping in for a few seconds just to say that i like arctic exploring other options during their eod
they iso and scumread gorta, they list sculptor as an option (although it seems out of nowhere but i haven’t been able to read arctic’s full iso again to figure out where that came from), and i don’t really hate their end vote on majora
it felt like a resigned vote on a wagon that actually existed, after gorta gained 0 traction
admittedly, arctic didn’t vote gorta, but i didn’t initially vote arctic either, so i kinda understand that
not sure how to feel about arctic barely commenting about any of the top wagon options, though
he barely said anything about eli and he only commented on majora when it was basically the last moment to do something
never said a word about tl as far as i can see in his iso
never said a word about cloned either and didn’t seem to mind the wagon dying
tl;dr i like arctic’s interest in pursuing new avenues during last eod, especially considering we ended up wagoning two villagers
i dislike the fact he had so little interest in the main wagons he didn’t comment on these people at all
at all
People can look at this.
And they can also ask themselves why did gorta trust Mistyx all of a sudden at that EoD.
Trust enough to follow them to CFD the slot gorta was townleaning about half an hour before that.
And also gorta didn’t seem interested in pushing his own scumread, like, at all? When it mattered.
But I do think the progression he had EoD is just kinda laughable really anyway (laughable in “it’s extremely wolfy” way).
/vote gorta @Wazza @CRichard564
Would go here for now, as holy crap, I really do feel about this one more strongly than about anything else.
I’d think more at some point if I should let it affect my reads on TL and such. (but I’ll repeat that TL/gorta are most likely not w/w from the vote gorta placed just before the “first” EoD).
in case someone doesn’t see what the problem with that is
it implies a lack of investment in yesterday’s eod
and if you’re a wolf during yesterday’s eod, you see the town wagon two villagers, and you pog hard, but you don’t have to do anything, really.
in that sense, the only thing arctic did was cast a resigned vote on majora and nothing else
which isn’t a great look unless he’s a villager who resigned himself to having the day end with wagons he considered bad
which is… eh? i haven’t considered arctic the type of player who passively accepts bad play of his town teammates. i’d like to see at least some commentary regarding the wagons, maybe some defending or pushing for the options he suggested instead of the consensus he apparently didn’t agree with
i kinda vibe with this take
where do you stand regarding who’s town?
probably the worst thing there but it’s not the most inspiring iso to begin with
What’s weird is I don’t see gorta pushing major agenda which is like the one way I can read him as scum lol
Like he usually grabs random quotes from someone that looks bad and makes up some actually convincing bullshit
the issue is i really did have no strong thoughts at EoD
it would have been impossible to convince people to vote gorta even if at the time i was fully convinced he was scum (which i wasn’t)
you’re also assuming i thought the majora wagon was bad
i didn’t
i already said i had wanted to lynch majora because he is either a wolf who would be allowed to live while doing nothing or a townie who’s going to contribute nothing - do i even need to comment on the shitty ‘profiling’ post which gave us literally no information?
majora’s flip should give us a lot of information based on his interactions with others and this is something i want to look into
Centuries
Vulgard
KyoDaz
Light
min
Windward (who I think I remember having a decently villagery EoD too)
rat
PKR
Clonedcheese (based mostly on wagonomics tbh and partially on TWTBAW I guess?)
----------------- (lower are somewhat PoE even though I did get some townie feelings at some points from the higher tier, but enough for a solid read)
Ami
Leafia (they might be trending down for me somewhat as they largely disappeared)
AtNoName (kinda the same, don’t remember much from them)
(this people I need to read)
YouButWorse
sculptordwarf
Arctic
eevee (lol)
TrustworthyLiberal
dota
gorta
if i was a wolf then i simply wouldn’t have been present as EoD by this logic
because that would avoid the issue of voting on a V/V wagon and also allow me to ‘pog hard’ without doing anything
pog hard lmao
I was nicely reminded to make my own list
atn feels like cringe to me
I’m now conflicted on cloned because I really liked his post abt majora voters
dota is. I don’t like dota at all there’s a point where you meme so hard honestly would mind yeeting this today
not trying to read eevee
I think sculptor is p towny mostly recently though they just seem mildly busy
i still kinda feel like gorta is null? I’m not sure how to read him but I don’t feel like he’s particularly scummy?? compared to his last games I don’t see obvious agenda
I’ll address the whole thing, but you should re-read my initial read on Eli. Null leaning town isn’t locktown in my eyes. I think I remember saying he wasn’t locktown to the point of defending Eli to death
what
did you not read the post where i made my vote on gorta
he literally did the same thing as he did last game as scum - he voted his townread over his scumread because sheeping
check vul’s post i quoted from too
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