Cult Recommendations
If you want to see the new class and new ability recomendations just scroll down. This is why I feel these changes would be good for the game/ the cult.
Cult Issues:
The Cult compared to the Unseen have very different strengths and weaknessess. You have to understand these before understanding what changes I am proposing. My changes will address all of these issues.
Cult Strengths:
- Can have 4 members
Unseen Strengths
- Mastermind is immune to death at night, is not suspicious the first 3 nights, can find out peoples class types, and turn into an Assassin if needed
- Assassin can not only kill at night, but he can poison during the day basically having the most killing power in the game with 2 killing methods.
- Classes converted from Blue Dragon have a wide variety of classes that they could have at their disposal 15 Unseen Classses vs 5 Cult Classes. This gives a more broad potential of things that the BD have to watch out for.
Cult Weaknesses:
- Classes ALL have limited use charges on all abilites, and have to be sacrificed to gain more charges of Eradicate so that the leader can kill
- Killing and converting are shared by the same class
- Overall have ZERO classes that can “protect” the cult, where as the Unseen have 3 strong classes that can keep their own members alive (Enforcer, Sellsword, and even Poacher)
Unseen Weaknesses:
- If the Mastermind dies, they lose ability to convert
Cult vs Unseen Unique Abilities
I am not trying to be biased… and as you can see from the list I have made, the cult have many weaknesses and few strengths. What I did was write down all abilities that the Cult had… and all abilities that the Unseen had. Then I crossed off abilities from both lists that the other factions shared/ similar. So this list is the “Unique Abilities” that Cult/ Unseen classes have.
Unique Cult Abilities
- Talking to the dead members at night
- Whispering during the day
- King Ability disable
- Group occupy immune
Unique Unseen Abilities
- Royalty (Alcoholic/ Aristocrat/ Duchess)
- Poisoning
- Muting players for 10 seconds
- Stoping a player from voting that day
- Appearing “not suspicious” at night (2 charges)
- Protecting/ Guarding members at night (Enforcer/ Sellsword)
- Defile - changing a players class on death
- Erasing chat history
- Listen to Prince conversation
- Read other players journals
- Make player unable to speak or hear the following day
That is CRAZY that the Unseen have that many more unique abilities.
These changes I am proposing even out the 2 lists to be balanced. Each Faction will have 4 unique things that they can do but the other cannot. Instead of the Cult being FAR less diverse and overall weaker.
Cult Current Class Changes
Seeker
- 2nd Day Ability: (2 charges) target player will appear as not suspicious the following night
The Seeker always starts off with the Cult Leader, so this would be a way of giving the Cult Leader the ability to be “NS” the first 2 nights. This could not only be used later in the game also, but on other members of the Cult. Usually I wold say the Cult Leader is more likely to die and be replaced than the members living long enough to need to sacrifice.
Apostle
- 2nd Night Ability: Prevent target player from speaking the following day
The Unseen have this ability but even more powerful by not letting them hear either (Hangover). They also have a distract for 10 seconds (yes, much shorter). This falls in line with a social class, and if they dont want to do a random mind warp (if they havent found an investigative class yet, they can mute someone (potentially making them look reaped)
Invoker / Ritualist
- I feel like they could use a day ability, but nothing seemed necessary, and after all these changes everything already was more balanced
New Class for Cult
The Cult have every “type” of class except for Killer. If you are a Killer Blue Dragon (Knight/ Hunter) you get converted into an Invoker… which is an “offensive” type class. This just feels bad to me simply because it violates the theme of the Cult. Whatever your BD class is… you get converted into the Cults version of that type… except for killers. There are 4 classes that currently turn into Invokers… thats a lot of Invokers. Now I understand that this is because the Cult Leader can kill, and if there were TWO classes for the Cult that could kill, that would be Over Powered! So here is my solution to this
If you are a Knight or Hunter… you will now instead be converted to this
Acolyte (or make a new name)
Cult Killer Class
- Day Ability: Hemorrhage (1 charge) Put a cure on target player and the following day they will be alerted that they are now bleeding to death. (same message you get when you are bit by a Hunter wolf)
- Night Ability 1: Do Thy Bidding (2 charges) Activate this ability to kill the player that the Cult Leader is Eradicating. This will not consume eradicate charges.
- Night Ability 2: Blood Pact (2 charges) Watch over your Cult members tonight and sacrifice yourself for them if anyone is attacked.
Explanation:
- There is not a bleed in the game except for the Hunters 2 night abilities. I have always had an issue with that since its one of the few “100% unique” things in the game. Hunter is one of the WORST claims in the game right now, since if nobody bleeds… then there is no Hunter. This opens up the potential for a Cult to actually claim hunter
- The bleed also gives the Cult something similar to an Unseen poison but its far less powerful since you cant recharge it, and you wont always have this class always.
- Gives the Cult Leader 2 things, the ability to not use up Eradicate charges, and not have to leave his chambers and visit the kill target.
- The Acolyte could use up his killing charges then stand guard over the Cult and let himself die instead of the other members.
Conclusion
After reading all of this, look back on the strengths/ weaknessess of each faction. Look at the unique abilities of each faction. These changes not only address ALL the issues I layed out, but closes the gap on the unique abilities of the two factions
Please let me know what you guys think.
