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Anyone between Silv, Nikamara and Wiisp

Ok, for the record, out of those three the only one I personally see being a valid night target is Nikamara, but she’s not an immediate utility role, she’s also getting scumread, and therefore she’s unlikely to die.

Wolves don’t kill a babysitter if they think the babysitter is babysitting one of them.

Wolves don’t kill Silviu because it gets out a confirmed townie but it doesn’t get out a strong player (no offense Silviu, you’re still learning because you’re new).

As for the Kaif kill, literally the only things I can guess are 1. his reads, 2. suspected PR, or 3. suspected third mason. Additionally, he was an agenda push on D1 but not at all on D2, as the only one voting him was Merc.

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sounds like paranoid gun owner

Because i dont scum read Helz.

This is how it works. I scum read you, someone says “hey i would vote there because i scum read Wind but i also scum read you”. Then i say, fine, help bus my partner.

that’s a town role.

I have doubts about Nika’s claim for the most part. Since she gave it away far too simply after being prodded. Wiisp’s felt more organic since they were on the border of getting lynched already
While the babysitter on the otherhand is a role who becomes much less useful when it dies so a full reveal is bit offputting. It does make them more of a danger risk to scum since they might have been intentinally defending one of them

according to mafia scum at least. @Guillotina are you paranoid gun owner?

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Paranoid_Gun_Owner

yes but the problem is that claiming paranoid gun owner does the exact opposite of what the role is meant for.

he was doing fine RTing in the thread and trying to make himself look towny, but right now it feels oddly forced and he literally claimed, so he’s just never going to be the night kill regardless of alignment, so it tells us exactly nothing.

off-topic but am I seeing things, or is this the second time you have the same pfp as Intensify? :thinking:

Not how roles work

Aight so lemme assume all of them are town rq

Silviu is un-MLable but easily manipulated, and has very little thread control in the grand scheme of things
Wolves can use him to push agenda, and likely are
Also he might have been protected

Wiisp is a claimed babysitter and could very well target within the scumteam, taking one of them down with him

Nikamara isn’t widely townread I don’t think? Aelin quoted where they cased and dunked on Tilga, which is nagl considering their flip. Can be left alive for paranoia’s sake to push an elim. Also their claim doesn’t seem very high priority to me

There ya go

Ezpz
I do believe one of you and Wiisp is fakeclaiming, simply from a balance standpoint
But yeah
I don’t think all PR claims being alive is extreeeemely damning?

All right, so if you have doubts on Nika’s claim during Guillo’s RT, are you association reading their alignments at all, or do you have independent reads on them? Just curious where your thoughts are at.

dang, it. This is the second time this happned :joy_cat:

Correct

I had to leave for hours. If you check the game you’ll see I wasn’t able to come back for like over 9 hours iirc. I didn’t want to get hammered over a lie. You have to take the claim in context of that. Really dislike this push. I’ve explained this to death by this point.

to add to this point
he also kinda leaks information easily tbh, since he hasn’t totally figured out when to out it or not

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so if scum want to know what the sync rates are and what the masons know, they’re more likely to leave Silviu alive and try to get rid of the last mason instead.

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However other than that I read them based on their targets during each day. Their reasonings suspecting any player have logical so far, tilg’s being quite solid from any perspective. The only one that stood out was their read on PKR but that was mainly day 1 and at that time we were still at an RVS.

@WindwardAway
well we don’t have to worry about that, I told him not to say anything anymore

EoD1 Vote Count Analysis

Check out the rapid wagon shifts here. I might’ve said something immediately if I’d been on right at EoD, but I wasn’t, so hindsight 20/20 I guess.

  • Aelin jumped off Wiisp and onto PKR, voicing paranoia.
  • Wiisp jumped off Kaif and onto PKR, claiming it was self-pres even though PKR’s wagon was only ahead of both Kaif and Wiisp by 1 vote, and also said he was sure PKR would flip town.
  • Blitz swapped his vote from Wiisp to PKR and gave no reasoning.
  • Tied top wagons = no exe, something I kind of forgot when I was initially looking at this.

I’m looking at this one more time and I can’t be bothered to find my own post to quote it so I just pasted it all in again.

So now we know that PKR was town, Kaif was town, and we still don’t know what Wiisp is but he claimed babysitter.

What does that tell us about the wagons?

(And if one more person faults me for looking at wagonomics I will wagon their ass.)