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[Silviu200530]

Everyone has a story in mind that passionates them, this is how creativity is born.

[Chloe]

min is probably just town

their posts dont make me wanna throw up
opener is comfortable and doesnt feel very ‘how do you do, fellow kids?’ which is a good look - especially considering they dont know everyone in the roster and might not be as natural with a wolfrand

honestly solid iso
lack of presence today is whatever - their activity is fine on d1/d2
it doesnt feel like theyre afraid of confrontation
bitching about how theyre being scumread for nothing is absolutely NAI but im townreading it anyways because brain go buzz and i feel guilty

of the people i know in this playerlist i’d honestly say min has one of the more solid wolfgames - their ranges overlap quite a bit, and i always have a rough time reading them tbqh. i respect it

think they’re villabroing here after ISO though

would still love to see more of you tho when time permits @min
always appreciate your thoughts and memes

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[Helz]

Nika: Town read

Overall I feel pretty good about this slot. The reads they gave me match up with their interactions in the thread and in very many places I really felt they were genuinely scum hunting. The only inconsistency from what they told me was a flip on Chloe’s read but that makes sense in context to the player change and the timing.

@Nikamara

the back tracking here has pinged me a bit. personality =/= reasoning. His reasoning against you was pure angleshooting and then he pinged a bunch of people to weigh in on your interaction while trying to shade you.

I find stuff like this everywhere voicing original points and their pushes do not seem opportunistic. Their specific focus on how others reads are developing their reads feels really good to me. They also do not appear to just be handing out stances with every position they take having plenty of reasoning backing it up.

A part of me was kinda pinged by how often they go off on tangents with me that made me wonder if I am being pocketed but it did not feel intentional and I was not able to see anywhere where they seemed to be ‘guiding’ or manipulating me. That and I can’t be too critical when I do it myself. I also like how out of the 3 players I pinged asking for clarification for reads they were the only one willing to pop up and clarify exactly where they stood.

[Helz]

Kinda.

I was digging through Derps and noticed something someone posted and I am not motivated to pressure them. Just threw out a post on my thoughts on Nika.

But yeah, for the most part those are the slots I am sorting. I have had good feels on Zone but I have also not really looked into them.

[Chloe]

/vote Aelin @osieorb18 @EliThePsycho

easy game easy life tbh

EoD1 paranoia fake as shit
emotions feel plastic
theres no oomph to her cases and reads
this just feels like vig10er aelin (wolfgame)

there is nothing in this iso that makes me happy

can die thx frens
gimme pelt

[Chloe]

shes been consistently pushing villagers and not putting as much into her reads/cases as i know she can as a villager

going heavily utr
not getting nearly as much attention as she should be

get me out of this game

[Silviu200530]

Eh? I thought her pushes were genuine? I mean, they’re really a null to me.

[TheLukundo]

I dislike your Aelin vote, Chloe.

Why?

Not sure yet.

[Chloe]

i dont know if shes having a bad week or something but she has the most monotone iso on this goddamn planet and it feels like shes a straight up robot

i dont feel
anything

she just exists

its an empty nothingburger iso

why is she not getting put under the spotlight and pushed and shoved by wolves

[Chloe]

idc

[Chloe]

i’ll figure out how much i believe my read after i sleep on it

but i think issa hit tbh

[Silviu200530]

Watch out for what you say, they might be offended.

[Wisdom]

I’m back! Anything new? (Sorry I’m still very bad at knowing which way to catch up effectively)

[Wisdom]

Chloe! You’re here! Any new reads since last time or any progression on Helz/Guill?

[Chloe]

Hi!
I’m coming around on both Helz and Guill but definitely need to sleep on it
I’ve been in thread too long and I’m echo chambering in my own head which isnt helping much

I think min is a villager
I think aelin is a wolf
Both of these are explained in my recent posts

I’m honestly about to fall asleep bc im exhausted, sorry

Good night

[Wisdom]

I’m with you on min, I forgot about it but remembered after seeing Helz’ doc. She had a towny push on me d2.

No idea who Aelin is, so I should probably look that up

[Wisdom]

Read through Aelin’s ISO. Not w/w with Wiisp/Luku/Min but they are all likely town anyway.

[Wisdom]

All right I’ll vibe.

[Prophylaxis]

@WindwardAway

• I’m guessing Tilgarial is right and there’s at least one wolf on their wagon. It’s possible that it was a pure wagon and half the town jumped on Tilga for their sucky vote on me, but I think it indicates that I am misclearing someone. I’m facing a huge dilemma because I was townleaning all of the players wagoning them, so I guess I’m in deep shit now with my reads. Time for my paranoia to kick in (and everyone else’s paranoia about me to kick in). I’ll look at Proph, Guillo and Nika first, and Aelin afterward. I’m not going to tinfoil my reads on Zone or Blitz right now. I have reasons for reevaluating those slots in the order I listed, but I’ll keep that to myself until I’ve actually gone through and looked at them. What I will say is that, Proph’s comment on Blitz’s then-impending flip did not look great (Derps pointed this out first), and Guillo’s RT on Nika made me think of something that I’m gonna need to look into to evaluate more.

I also agree that there is at least one wolf, possibly two, on the Tilg wagon. Out of everyone on that wagon, I would look at re-evaluating or examining Nikamura, Zone, and Aelin.

I’ll need you to explain your Zone and Aelin reads - Zone has been kind of a massive blind spot this game for me because they are on at weird times and not many of their posts have moved the needle for me one way or another. I liked Aelin Yesterday because of their case on Wisp, but they have… somewhat dropped off today, plus it’s compounded by Wisp claiming Babysitter.

@WindwardAway

• Proph is right; Merc didn’t do much on D2. As I said in one of my last posts (when I voted Tilga), I started wondering if Merc holding onto her reads from D1 is indicative that she has a lack of TMI on the current thread state, as she was the only one who left her vote on Kaif. If I’m right about this, it’s >rand town-indicative. I’ll try to read around her slot today and see how other people are treating it. If she’s town, there’s scum on her wagon for sure, and possibly more on her wagon than on Tilga’s.

I was really trying to read into her posts on Day 2, but I couldn’t really come up with anything. I stuck to my Tilg vote because I thought this post was a potential mindset slip:

@Tilgarial

You haven’t really convinced me that i’m scum yet.
You’ve only used some actual reason sprinkled with arbitrary/misunderstood things and called it a case, while only taking in account my D1/first 115 posts, according to your own words

@WindwardAway

• Helz and Proph have both been letting me either steer the thread or encouraged me to lead the town so people can follow, and considering I was wrong about PKR, Tilgarial, and am probably also wrong about Merc, I’m getting a huge red flag from them right now (moreso Helz than Proph). Usually when I end up surviving for a while in the game, it’s because my reads absolutely suck and I’m a very loud and very wrong townie. I’m not that surprised; my early reads are often not that great, but I can usually straighten them out later on.

Talk to me about how I have been letting you steer the thread/encouraged you to lead the town? I thought I’ve been pretty aggressive about using you as a rock to guide my reads of specific players (min, for example) but I don’t think I’ve ever done either of the things you’ve said.

@WindwardAway

• Derps was kind of right when he said if Blitz is town, Proph could be scum (and I know he was more certain than I am, but I’m giving him credit for making me consider that Proph might not actually be town). See posts #5334 and #5350 for reference. While I think Lukundo is right about Proph being decently solvey in the thread, I can’t help but wonder about his votes. Proph moved his vote from Blitz to Tilga which reads as somewhat opportunistic.

?

How was it opportunistic? I literally said that I got cold feet on Blitz because of their reactions to my questions at EoD, and I voted Tilg because I thought they mindset slipped + you wanted people to vote for them. You telling me to vote Tilg at EoD yesterday then shading my vote as opportunistic here is kinda skeeving me out, not gonna lie.

@WindwardAway

vote Tilgarial instead because they seemed quite happy to vote me when you and Derps started the wagon on me

@WindwardAway

• Post #5397 by Helz, in reply to Lukundo, is something I think could come from a wolf. I’m thinking wolf!Helz could be whiteknighting me and encouraging me to push my incorrect reads so that he can hide behind looking analytical but not having to push agenda himself. All it really takes is one loud, wrong town player to allow the scum to coast off their reads, and they can fly somewhat UTR. If it’s between Helz and Lukundo, I’d guess Helz is the wolf. I also think there are some weird associations around Helz’s slot that I’ve been looking at, and I’m trying to figure out whether they’re useful or not. I believe if Helz is a wolf, he’s very likely distancing from at least one of his partners and has possibly already tried to bus them. He has the potential to go very far in the game as scum, especially if he hardbusses a teammate for towncred.

This, I can see. I had Helz as one of the townreads I was considering re-evaluating. I previously liked his process with regards to Lukundo, but I think it is fakeable and his posts/stance today I am not particularly favorable of.

[Prophylaxis]

I have liked Merc’s posts at SoD3. I also think if Merc is scum, her team doesn’t kill Kaif in the night based on how Merc tied her entire D2 identity into pushing him.

@TheLukundo

BTW I have Prop as my second strongest townie in the game. I don’t think they flip scum

Luk, can you talk to me about why your townread on me is so strong? I honestly don’t understand and/or forgot you talking about your read on me. Not really sure why people are townreading me right now tbh (though this was 1000 posts ago, so)

@WindwardAway

Not just that. I’m like 99% sure he’s left his scum meta actually.

Could you talk to me about Zone’s scum/town meta more in-depth? I barely have any experience with him as a player.

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I’ve enjoyed Chloe’s posts since they replaced in, but one thing that I am unsure comes from Chloe wolf is this line:

@Chloe

Trying to figure out how much of this is a clash of personality/playstyle and i’ll get back to it tomorrow
Hopefully get to talk to the guy in realtime

I don’t know their meta, but I feel like scum!Chloe would have a much more agenda driven push on Helz and it would be more… binary? Instead they list off a bunch of concerning things about Helz and then follow it up with this sort of deliberation about playstyle that I feel like… would not bother to enter scum!Chloe’s head or they would not stopgap themselves like this. Especially with this post later (and Chloe’s subsequent re-evaluation on his slot):

@Chloe

I realize my read of Helz is a bit unfair
As I’m not taking into account context of the entire game and instead honed in on individual posts that i despise

Will take a step back and try to read ~everything soonish but goddamn im so strapped for time lol

It’s kind of a weak read but I saw similar things in Helz where I thought they were really wolfy/fake in their first couple of posts but I had to remind myself that they come from a completely different mafia site than I am used to. I guess a mini-mind meld is the word I’d use here?