Well they have to be in the same team, they are either working together and Lukundo has been trying to distance from Wiisp and failing big time and Wiisp felt concerned after i voiced that i was gonna look into marl early reads so he thought shading me for making that question to lukundo was gonna be enough to discredit me. Or both are town openly pocketing each other in such an obvious way that it gotta be t/w
Hmmm, I see
I was specifically thinking about a possible pocketing when i was asking tbh, so that does make a difference
Not really. Youāreā¦ what, in the upper half of my townreads? Not at the top, but Iām not quite sure who is even at the top, so whatever
That was for everybody reading that; canāt just tell the mafia to ignore my mindgames
Canāt play midngames with town, so i gotta try with mafia
I am town and i think you could be mafia for that stunt to be honest but time will tell
Well the thing about mind games is that you dont announce they are mind games when you are town.
Thatās okay, i mainly did it in the first place because I never expected getting out of PoE this game
Sweet.
/vote Nightingale @osieorb18 @EliThePsycho
I have reasoning which Iāve forgotten and will find again but I remember this being the wrong answer. (The answer which makes me SR you, not technically incorrect)
@Zone_Q11 you asked me to give thoughts on EOD1
I canāt find your post so Iāll just tag you
Notes of EOD1
Iāll start from 10 mins before EOD, which is approximately here:
I think at this point there wasnāt anyone on Wiispās wagon
Actually, hereās VC a bit before then:
(This is after Wiispās call for CFD)
For context, this post was in response to Helzās post which had the exact words of āfocused on eliminating themā. At first, I thought the deliberate āeliminateā here didnāt match with Lukundoās explanation D2 that Wiisp made a post they disliked they thought āwhy not?ā - the eliminate here seems much more deliberate but it becomes NAI with context.
This was in response to Silviu asking why they should vote wiisp then. I agree that one post they made felt very wrong (as in it made no sense why they believe they would die over claimed masons) but that was also the post that made a lot of people instantly SL/SR Wiisp.
Aelin votes Wiisp
tbh I still donāt really understand where this came from (is it meta-related or something?). Youāre still alive so does that mean Proph is town?
At some point while doing this, I realized I was just paraphrasing what was happening and not giving any analysis. I was also basically quoting all the comments which is useless because people can read it themselves.
Summary (sort of):
- Marl would rather PKR than Kaif die (and votes PKR)
- min disliked the idea of voting Wiisp and thought PKR was a fine wagon and Kaif not self-presing was towny
- Aelin says they are not comfortable voting with min on PKR (who is null for them)
- Silviu votes Wiisp
- Lukundo votes Wiisp
- Night shows up
- Blitz says they want to swap to Wiisp but donāt want to risk Kaif getting hugged
- Kaif votes Wiisp and urges people on PKR to reconsider
- Blitz votes Wiisp
- min says CFD sucks
- Night asks if people are voting Kaif
- min replies to vote PKR
- Tilga says they want to flip PKR a lot more
- Lukundo gives reads: Kaif up for debate, Wiisp SR, PKR TR
- Helz strongly disagree with Wiisp CFD
- Tilga votes PKR
- Aelin would rather flip Wiisp and Kaif than PKR
Continued
- Wiisp seems like they are in agony over voting PKR to self-pres
- Lukundo leaves
- Aelin votes PKR
- Wiisp votes PKR
- Blitz votes PKR
Day Ends
So things that stood out to me would be A) minās strong opposition against Wiisp wagon (which gets ignored) B) Tilgaās vote on PKR C) Aelin not feeling PKR wagon but still voting PKR in the end and D) Blitz going wherever the wind blows
Should Wiisp be scum, I donāt think min looks very good. However, considering the sheer amount of people willing to switch to Wiisp last minute, I donāt think thatās likely.
Tilgaās vote on PKR stands out as the first after a bunch of Wiisp votes. The shift back to PKR wagon occurs after Tilgaās vote. Again, if Wiisp is scum, Tilga doesnāt look great here.
The fact that Aelin says they would rather vote Wiisp or Kaif than PKR but still votes PKR anyways strikes me as odd. However, as Aelin expressed in the thread, paranoia may have played a factor in this.
Blitz is probably the scummiest out of the people here. In a Wiisp/PKR T/T world, Blitz looks opportunistic from jumping onto whichever wagon is popular.
Ultimately, all of these analysis hinge on Wiispās currently unknown alignment. I have a light TL on them (i.e., Wiisp) for now from their interaction with Aelin earlier (which I thought was too contained towards each other to be wolfy) so Blitz would be the one I find most sus from EOD1.
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